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1 posted on 01/21/2015 6:27:53 PM PST by smokingfrog
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Seem regressive? It would be if not for Cortana, the glue that holds it all together. The goal seems to be an all-new Web browsing experience that abandons add-ons, menus and bookmark lists for a new form of interface made simple by a digital assistant.

I guess I will skip Windows 10 as well. I have no use for an OS that "abandons add-ons, menus and bookmark lists." Win7 is not going anywhere.

2 posted on 01/21/2015 6:32:47 PM PST by Greysard
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The only way I would progress from the machine I have, running windoze 7, would be if the machine self-incinerated, after evoking, “Good morning, Mr. Phelps ...”.

I will not purchase a new machine with a camera installed, any sort of ‘office anything with Internet explorer inclusive’, and any sort of ‘social imbecility access’.

I’m retired, and no longer paid to have ‘office software’ on a machine. I have no existing family members, so I do not have to engage in the present rage of social imbecility software, whether video or audio, nor any need to sit before the machine’s internal camera, whether I turn it on, or Obama’s ilk.


5 posted on 01/21/2015 6:41:23 PM PST by Terry L Smith
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Virtual assistants sound nice. But because they are limited to a vocal interface they are ultimately not optimal for universal operating systems.

Not everyone wants to be conversing with a computer.


7 posted on 01/21/2015 6:43:15 PM PST by Bayard
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I sat next to a Microsoft rep on a flight in December. He had the beta version of Windows 10 on his laptop and he gave me a little peek.


10 posted on 01/21/2015 6:45:36 PM PST by Retired Chemist
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How about giving us back the icons we had on 7 and prior. I like my icons.


18 posted on 01/21/2015 6:55:31 PM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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If it still has those ridiculous ribbon menus, I have little interest.

The main thing Win 7 offered over XP was the capability of using more memory. Had they come out with an XP edition that would do that, XP would still be THE desktop software.

Newer is not always better. And with Windows and many Windows programs, newer is seldom better.


21 posted on 01/21/2015 6:59:44 PM PST by TomGuy
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Look down in the lower right corner of that screen shot. They put the date in the wrong order, like the military, or in Europe.

They just cant be normal, can they?


26 posted on 01/21/2015 7:02:54 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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43 posted on 01/21/2015 7:14:53 PM PST by newfreep ("Evil succeeds when good men do nothting" - Edmund Burke)
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For all the excuses, they are still married to the idea of one operating system for phones, tabs, and desktops. There will be inherent compromises. For those of us who are 100% sure we will never have a MS phone, this is only a negative.


51 posted on 01/21/2015 7:22:08 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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My biggest peeve with windows is when I am done and I tell the machine to shut down, I am greeted by a message stating that the system is installing updates and I shouldn’t pull the power cord. I don’t always have 45 minutes to allow the update to do its thing.


58 posted on 01/21/2015 7:34:52 PM PST by BuffaloJack (Muslim Creeping Conquest of America and Canada)
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I have a Question about the new Windows 10. I understand they will allow a free upgrade from Windows 8 and 8.1 for one year. My question is is there a charge for that after the one year or they basically giving you a free update to Windows 10 in the hopes that solves all the issues with earlier Windows editions?
Thank you in advance.
Freegards LEX


66 posted on 01/21/2015 8:10:41 PM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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Cortana is simply the next incarnation of Microsoft’s ill-conceived and disastrous attempts to foist a touch-centric cell-phone interface on every PC on earth. That didn’t work, so their next try is a voice-centric interface, and that will be disastrous too. Ever see the scene in “Blade Runner” where Deckerd uses voice commands to perform a simple zoom, crop and print operation on a photo?

For commercial and industrial use and content creation, no interface comes close to a keyboard and mouse-based GRAPHICAL USER INTERFACE for efficiency and speed. Homo sapiens is a creature designed primarily for for 2-eye/10-finger/2-hand interaction and manipulation of our world, and Microsoft STILL doesn’t understand that basic fact!

After all, how many business people has anyone heard lately begging to have Cortana, integrated Bing, integrated Microsoft Store, Metro UI integrated into the Start Menu, universal user interfaces, universal multi-device APIs or Integrated Microsoft Cloud? I’m thinking pretty much exactly zero. The mere fact that the above are the big “improvements” in Windows 10 is absolute proof Microsoft is still not listening to their customers, but is continuing to build the OS that only Microsoft wants.

I don’t think Microsoft has truly learned its lesson yet, since it seems that they’re simply going to careen from their massive UI disaster to new, but different disasters of their own making, including attempts to tightly integrate Microsoft store, cloud and other services into Windows 10 rather than pay any attention whatsoever to what users actually need and want.

And you can also be assured that both consumers and the enterprise will be looking with a severely jaded eye upon the worthiness of Windows 10, particularly since Microsoft hasn’t given anyone enough time to spit the terrible taste of Windows 8 out of their mouths before the hurried introduction of Windows 10.

No one in industry, manufacturing, government, military, business, or the enterprise will care one whit about Windows 10 unless it’s a more productive operating system for the vast majority of their PC users.

That really will be the sole metric of the success of Windows 10: is it compatible with the hundreds of millions of current PC applications and users, and is it substantially more productive than Windows 7? IF not, then there’s no business case for “upgrading” from Windows 7 as there will be no positive return on investment.

Productivity should be Microsoft’s sole focus for Windows 10. If Microsoft persists in making an operating system that meets Microsoft’s needs and not the needs of its industrial and business users, then Windows 10 will be another flop like Windows 8. Never before has Microsoft had two major OS flops in a row, and now that Microsoft has all but lost the war for mobile, they can’t afford to lose their one remaining monopoly.

The bottom line is that Microsoft is facing a headwind of skepticism (and alternatives) like never before in their history of introducing new operating systems, and I wonder if they know that Windows 10 is not just another OS to be introduced to a naive and adoring audience with their typically lame publicity barrage, but may be in fact be the last OS they ever introduce that anyone will actually give a hoot about if turns out to be as bad a bomb as Windows 8.xxx.


69 posted on 01/21/2015 8:24:57 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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I will get a free copy of 10 for my windows 7 cd and another for my windows 8 cd that I have. Or is this a download only upgrade?

I hated that for Windows 8 to 8.1


71 posted on 01/21/2015 8:55:41 PM PST by minnesota_bound
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Hot puppies! This is going to be a dream come true for me: Mr. Clippy AND Microsoft Bob! You guys are gonna be so jealous...

Seriously, I'm on the Beta now and I think it'll do just fine. Zero driver issues so far and it doesn't seem as resource-hogging as, say, Vista was. I'll upgrade my Win7 boxes without hesitation, but I'll be keeping the installation media around, too, just in case.

73 posted on 01/21/2015 9:06:37 PM PST by Billthedrill
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"Cortana aims to be a complete virtual personal assistant that can plan trips, dictate emails and alert you to foul weather. Users will be able to customize the assistant’s settings and it will learn over time to understand each user’s habits."

That's nice. How do I disable or uninstall it?

95 posted on 01/23/2015 5:30:53 AM PST by AF_Blue ("America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, bad ass speed." - Eleanor Roosevelt, 1936)
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