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To: Mr. Lucky

“How does the Theory of Evolution address the first occurrence of life?”

It would be a physico-chemical event that is selected due to it’s self propagation.

The idea that evolution doesn’t address the very beginnings of life is not true.

Yes, I know evolutionists of all stripes deny that, but it is 1) a cop out in their part to avoid what they feel is difficult and 2) an example that they don’t understand their own theory or implications of it.

The second is the more important of the two.

It is always said that abiogenesis is outside the theory of evolution.

But the whole concept of abiogenesis is just another iteration on vitalism, which is what evolution was supposedly doing away with.


62 posted on 01/20/2015 12:38:53 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan

Excuse my saying so, but obviously the origin of life can be traced to a physic-chemical event. The dispute addressed in this article is whether that event occurred spontaneously or by design.


63 posted on 01/20/2015 12:48:28 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: ifinnegan; Mr. Lucky
ifinnegan: "But the whole concept of abiogenesis is just another iteration on vitalism, which is what evolution was supposedly doing away with."

Your handwaving is not argument, FRiend.
In fact, no serious scientist believes in "vitalism", but every scientist understands that complex organic chemistry can, under some conditions, naturally perform some functions of life -- i.e., self replication.
And a molecule which can replicate itself imperfectly will of necessity over time complexity = evolve.

That's not "vitalism", it's just chemistry.

And who invented such chemistry?
Well, Who created the Universe.
Was that "intelligent design"?

Seems pretty smart to me.

135 posted on 01/22/2015 11:08:07 AM PST by BroJoeK
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