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Gun enthusiast who shot police chief four times during raid walks free
Daily Mail Online ^ | January 18, 2015 | Ashley Collman

Posted on 01/18/2015 4:44:49 PM PST by Teotwawki

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To: Teotwawki

“explosive device”

“Every little bean must be heard as well as seen.”

Was it a Tupperware bowl full of pinto beans & ham?

Last week I polished off a big bowl of beans, then let loose a howitzer blast and my bulldog jumped several inches into the air.

“If I had room after a big bowl of pinto beans, I’d have some more beans.” Will Rogers


41 posted on 01/18/2015 6:14:15 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: Ingtar
They probably didn't have a crime to charge him with. Defending your family from a home invasion is not a crime, and apparently his guns were legally held.
42 posted on 01/18/2015 6:15:36 PM PST by expat2
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To: TigersEye
That's pretty much the case with all these dynamic entries isn't it? How could anyone know what all the screaming and door shattering is about unless they just wait to see if it's cops or criminals?

Somewhere previously, there must have been precident set with this in favor of a property owner having reasonable suspicion that his life, liberty, or property are being threatened and the reasonable response is to start shooting. If a precident had not been set... this case surely does it.

43 posted on 01/18/2015 6:21:21 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: Rodamala

I don’t recall the case now but that precedent was set in CO many years ago.


44 posted on 01/18/2015 6:25:14 PM PST by TigersEye (ISIS is the tip of the spear. The spear is Islam.)
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To: saleman
I re-read the entire post and didn't find anything that even suggested the cops non-warrant armed raid/invasion “seems to be just fine with a lot of members here.”

Quite the contrary.IMHO.

I'm glad nobody died here.

I can understand that cops are a little jumpy nowadays, but they supposedly have special training before stupidly trying to bust down an armed citizens door, based on one unsubstantiated phone call...

Had they waited for a warrant, none of this would have happened.
They could have easily cleared the location falsely threatened, and cordoned off access to the suspected threat until they gathered a legal search warrant.

It wasn't like what happened in my county this weekend, when four armed thugs got into a running gun battle with cops after fleeing an armed robbery....

45 posted on 01/18/2015 6:28:48 PM PST by sarasmom (Je suis Charlie!)
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To: MaxMax
I assume that shot placement was good since the officer lived because of the vest. I need to rethink shot placement strategy.

Cops are not the only ones who wear body armor. Crooks do too, like the robbers in the 1997 Hollywood shootout.

This is the reason for the Mozambique Drill (two to center-mass, then one to the head). A variant is to shoot the pelvis (an easier target than the head and one which will likely put the bad guy on the floor)

46 posted on 01/18/2015 6:37:19 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“I wonder what the “explosive device” was?”

One rifle primer.


47 posted on 01/18/2015 6:43:25 PM PST by headstamp 2
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To: Teotwawki

They didn’t elaborate about the mystery phone call, but whoever really made the call is the person who should bear the brunt of this cluster.

And that police chief needs to be recognized as having the wisdom and common sense not to try and prosecute the man. This seems to be a rarity these days.


48 posted on 01/18/2015 6:44:42 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: smokingfrog

“Dlugonski said the caller used the resident’s name, KFOR reported.”

Sounds like a “swatting” to me. Some lefties have adopted this tactic and also encourage others to use it against right wingers. They usually call in a report of a hostage situation or something at the target’s home, and hope for a SWAT raid with deadly consequences.


49 posted on 01/18/2015 6:58:46 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Teotwawki
The article didn't say if they busted the door down, but I assume they did because the homeowner felt he was being invaded. Then, "screaming from five officers of the law announcing [their] pressence" only created more confusion. All the police were armed, yelling aggressively, and forcing their way into his home. I'm not supprised the homeowner didn't have the mental focus or time to recognize them as police.

I recommend the police next time knock at the door and have only one designated screamer.

50 posted on 01/18/2015 7:24:10 PM PST by captain_dave
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To: saleman
Cops had a warrant? No? And that seems to be just fine with a lot of members here.

You've been here 10 years and think that?

LOL!

51 posted on 01/18/2015 7:24:54 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (The Gruber Revelations are proof that God is still smiling on America.)
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To: MaxMax
Think Mozambique drill.
52 posted on 01/18/2015 7:25:02 PM PST by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a politically correct way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: Teotwawki

Sounds like a Freeper to me.


53 posted on 01/18/2015 7:26:19 PM PST by captain_dave
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To: Balding_Eagle

Oh yea. I’ve been here 10 years. And I’m 100% sure that warrantless searches are perfectly fine with a large number of members here.


54 posted on 01/18/2015 7:46:23 PM PST by saleman (?)
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To: Teotwawki

So there was no warrant? I’m sure they would have mentioned that as justification for breaking into the guy’s house.

But nope.

And WTF are those pinnipeds eating there? That’s just disgustingly huge.

And you can be a cop and that overweight?


55 posted on 01/18/2015 8:06:20 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: The Working Man
As time goes on I expect to see more stories like this. It was just another Home Invasion... this time by the police.

I expect them to be called isolated incidents.

56 posted on 01/18/2015 8:41:27 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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Did anyone listen to that idiot mayor in the video? I couldn’t understand half of what he was trying to say. Why am I suspicious that he made the phony 911 call or knows who did?


57 posted on 01/18/2015 8:46:02 PM PST by TigersEye (ISIS is the tip of the spear. The spear is Islam.)
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To: The Working Man
As time goes on I expect to see more stories like this. It was just another Home Invasion... this time by the police.

But this time the victim survived...

58 posted on 01/18/2015 8:49:11 PM PST by Iscool
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To: MaxMax

I got that covered.

5.45x39 Vs. Bulletproof Vest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4Nzvsp2Mgg


59 posted on 01/18/2015 8:58:46 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: saleman
Oh yea. I’ve been here 10 years. And I’m 100% sure that warrantless searches are perfectly fine with a large number of members here.

True.

Less true as time goes on. The bootlickers are outnumbered these days by those who oppose the police state. There has been a massive change here over the years. You'll find knee-jerk approval of anything done be "cops" a lot less than you would even just 5 years ago. Compared to 10 years ago, the difference is dramatic.

You can almost always guess who the 5 most vocal will be as well.

60 posted on 01/18/2015 9:20:46 PM PST by zeugma (The act of observing disturbs the observed.)
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