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How Apple and Google are Killing Microsoft
T-GAAP ^ | Jan 6, 2015 | by: Mark Reschke

Posted on 01/06/2015 8:51:33 PM PST by Swordmaker

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To: LegendHasIt

“From my recent experiences, it seems more like Microsoft is committing suicide.”

Indeed. Google and Apple are not killing Microsoft: Microsoft is killing Microsoft, first with Windows 8, and probably with Windows 10 as well, because there’s no business case to convert from Windows 7 to Windows 10 unless Windows 10 offers guaranteed compatibility and MUCH better productivity for the millions of users and applications supported by Windows 7. Cortana and Microsoft clouds and Microsoft Stores and unified platforms and all the rest are either gimmicks or things that MICROSOFT cares about, and not things that their current installed base cares about.

I strongly suspect that Microsoft has not learned the lessons that they should have learned from the Windows 8 debacle.


41 posted on 01/06/2015 10:07:54 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: OneWingedShark
And yet I haven't heard of Google or Apple making a Type-safe OS.

Sounds like a pipe-dream to me. I prefer to go with something that has been 17 years in the wild and has not had a successful virus or worm invade it in those years.

42 posted on 01/06/2015 10:09:11 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Most are starting to recoil at this never ending lastest and greatest new updates and OS’s and on and on....All for a fee...Jump through more hoops, for a small or big fee.....You’ll like it, it’s just what you need....Ya gotta have it....Suzi and Bobby have it, and you’ll need it too. It’s make everything perfect for you and your life will be whole once again...

gak...


43 posted on 01/06/2015 10:12:49 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: RayChuang88
But the upcoming Windows 10 is a different story. With its desktop-centric user interface for desktop and most laptop machines, Windows 10 will be far more accepted by Windows 7 users, and that could spark a major upgrade cycle, making a lot of money for Microsoft even if the upgrade cost if US$49.95 per machine (I expect Microsoft to offer a much cheaper upgrade cost this time around).

But, but, but, they were saying that about Windows Vista, Windows 7, and Windows 8, and Windows 8.1. . . just wait until the next version and everything will be great, unicorns will be real, and Windows will work perfectly!

Frankly, we will believe it when we see it.

44 posted on 01/06/2015 10:12:54 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: bigtoona

You are only counting traditional desktops/workstations.

Most people access the Internet via smartphones and tablets.

Android will pass windows in numbers of devices within a few years.

Linux is doing very well in the Server space and in on the Internet.


45 posted on 01/06/2015 10:15:04 PM PST by crusher2013
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To: BereanBrain

Excellent analogy...


46 posted on 01/06/2015 10:16:22 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: doorgunner69
OoooOh, now you did it, the infamous linking of Apple users to homosexuality. That said, my two nephews that my uber-liberal sister managed to raise as homos are both Apple users by unswerving devotion. Why, I have no idea since I cannot communicate with their species, suspect that the early days of DOS were just too much for their sensitive little psyches.

No complicated analysis required. Microsoft = Mopar. Apple = non-Mopar, especially rice burners, but including Fix Or Repair Daily and General Maintenance. Using Windows puts hair on your chest, especially from tearing it out topside over a particular BSOD. It's a jalopy, but it's MY jalopy.

47 posted on 01/06/2015 10:18:06 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: The KG9 Kid

The Windows phone works amazingly well. I’ve had one since it first came out and it’s been completely problem free.


48 posted on 01/06/2015 10:20:44 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: dayglored

Apple has 5-6% last time I saw a recent graph.


49 posted on 01/06/2015 10:22:47 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: dayglored

I think Microsoft’s intent is to not own every market, but be like Wal-Mart and have a significant action in every market. If, in every tech market, Microsoft had 20% of the action, it would probably be the largest tech company on earth.


50 posted on 01/06/2015 10:24:39 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: topspinr; All

Heh - I don’t have room for a 39” TV, but a 4k 32” dual duty (TV / computer monitor) for under $370 or so (I could wait for Black Friday) would be of interest, a little down the line. Is there anything out there? I took a look on Amazon and the closest options I saw were 28” 4k Monitors (only) at a little over $400. Viewing distance would be pretty typical for computer work - I sometimes need to have multiple windows completely displayed & multiple monitors are not practical due to the space limitation.

Really nice would be capability to display TV in one window and the computer’s output in one or more other windows, simultaneously...


51 posted on 01/06/2015 10:29:11 PM PST by Paul R. (Leftists desire to control everything; In the end they invariably control nothing worth a damn.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
Apple seems to be self destructing though through their updates. Everything works until you update and their updates are constant, same with Google. They seem more to “down date” than update.

i see. And you have experience with this, or are you just parroting what you have read? I have multiple iOS devices and manage multiple Macs in an office environment and could not disagree with you more. There are always glitches with updates because there are millions of devices out there that do have a mix of components that Apple cannot test adequately across all models, but they have solved the majority of the problems on iOS 8.1.2.

Apple does not send out "constant" updates. . . In the almost two years that OS X.4 Tiger was out, only 11 updates were provided, including security updates. OS X 7 Lion and Mountain Lion only had 7 revisions each. . . hardly constant.

52 posted on 01/06/2015 10:31:04 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Swordmaker

>> And yet I haven’t heard of Google or Apple making a Type-safe OS.
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>Sounds like a pipe-dream to me.

Did you read the paper?

> I prefer to go with something that has been 17 years in the wild and has not had a successful virus or worm invade it in those years.

I prefer to go with things that can be formally proven: cannot happen is much better than “hasn’t happened yet”.


53 posted on 01/06/2015 10:31:31 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: LegendHasIt

Indeed, I think XBox has pretty much cannibalized the PC market for games.


54 posted on 01/06/2015 10:32:14 PM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: Swordmaker

bttt


55 posted on 01/06/2015 10:41:14 PM PST by Dave W
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To: Swordmaker

If MS “simply” came out with a Win 7 upgrade that ran faster and more reliably (possibly dumping some of the bloatware in return), upgraded security, and would be around for a while, I’d not need anything more / it would be a worthwhile upgrade.

Win 8 for desktops is just plain annoying - I have it on one machine and it’s neither efficient, fast running, or reliable.

Devices with small screens are basically useless for me, tho’ I do have a 10.1” screen netbook for times I get desperate in terms of portability. Generally, I need the biggest monitor practical (see my post above!)


56 posted on 01/06/2015 10:42:40 PM PST by Paul R. (Leftists desire to control everything; In the end they invariably control nothing worth a damn.)
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To: max americana

Bingo!


57 posted on 01/06/2015 10:46:45 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Democrat_media

Clinton’s threat to break up Micro Soft was a shakedown for “campaign contributions”.


58 posted on 01/06/2015 10:51:39 PM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: Secret Agent Man
Apple has 5-6% last time I saw a recent graph.

Not in the US. After IDC originally missed their 3rd Qtr 2014 guesstimates placing Apple Mac sales at a record 4.6 million and 13.4% of the US Market Share, when Apple released their actual 3rd quarter 2014 Mac sales at 5.5 million, IDC placed Apple at just under 18%. . . which made Apple the number 3 manufacturer of PCs in the US.

59 posted on 01/06/2015 11:04:15 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Paul R.

http://www.amazon.com/HP-32-Inch-LED-Lit-Monitor-Quad-HD/dp/B00NNQGHXC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1420614367&sr=8-1&keywords=HP+Envy+32


60 posted on 01/06/2015 11:06:18 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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