[Tax-chick]

Which makes it much much more interesting than the bland way you’re trying to make it certain.

I'm not trying to make it certain. I'm saying that asserting either position - no matter how vociferously - doesn't make either position true.

[discostu]

But without people periodically making assertions the debate dies. It’s a fun debate that’s been going on over 2000 years, it would be a shame to see it end.