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This year, I resolve to ban laptops from my classroom
Washington Post ^ | December 30, 2014 | Tal Gross

Posted on 01/05/2015 5:58:02 AM PST by C19fan

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To: Revelation 911

Instead - the teacher ought to encourage his students to find alternative opinions other than his own and discuss them robustly

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Arguing and “critical thinking” is useless without a base of information.


41 posted on 01/05/2015 2:03:24 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: C19fan

The local schools do most of their work on Ipads apparently


42 posted on 01/05/2015 2:03:55 PM PST by GeronL
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To: huldah1776

Which brings online courses into question. Does hearing a lecture in addition to taking notes also give a higher score in concepts than just reading a book or other students posts?

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Boy, I know in college and grad school taking notes and outlining my texts by synthesizing in my own words made my subject mine. From there I could critique and process well.


43 posted on 01/05/2015 2:05:51 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: Chickensoup

IF that is true, then it contradicts the headline and the exceprt.

Which still makes the teacher/author look like a bad and boring teacher making poor decisions


44 posted on 01/05/2015 2:14:46 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: wintertime
Classroom Lecture is dead.
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Absolutely! While there are some reasons to have some classroom meetings most of what is taught in college can be taught online at almost no cost and tested using privately administered certifying exams.

Plus, we simply cannot any longer afford the infrastructure of collective learning, government or otherwise - bricks, mortar, heating, cooling, teacher's salaries, teacher's retirements, overpaid "administrators" - the costs are pure waste.

45 posted on 01/05/2015 2:15:13 PM PST by abb ("News reporting is too important to be left to the journalists." Walter Abbott (1950 -))
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To: Responsibility2nd

huh?


46 posted on 01/05/2015 2:22:36 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: agincourt1415
Yes its the internet. The internet has changed learning.

When I need to learn a new graphics package for work, I play around with it as much as I can, and then look up how-to's on YouTube. Within 3 days of getting a new 3D package, I was able to do brief, usable animation. As time went on, I filled in knowledge gaps as necessary, project by project.

Sitting in a classroom for a semester and learning the software from top to bottom, and features that I may never use, is an enormous waste of time.

47 posted on 01/05/2015 2:24:50 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Semesters are not needed for basic software.

Commonly only 1week is even offered from pro software tutoring companies for such learning. I just took one 2months ago covering basic Solidworks in 4 days. Still nothing like being hands on guided, incidentally, even in that example. Rather than hunting and pecking. Just like typing. Much better taking the class than “I know where the letter keys are!” You are stil slow compared to me who learned seriously and can type fast.

That is my point. It does not take long to learn these mere tools. They are NOT the principles, which often take longer to go over. Different issue.


48 posted on 01/05/2015 2:45:25 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

For the third time I’ll state the obvious. A general understanding is necessary. A deep operational understanding of every algorithm one uses is a pointless exercise in wasted effort. Repetitive,rote memorization is a waste of time for students and professionals in most fields. Teaching students to use primitive tools to solve complex problems when one could be using the time to teach how such problems are actually solved is criminal fraud masquerading as education.


49 posted on 01/05/2015 4:36:23 PM PST by muir_redwoods ("He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative." G.K .C)
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To: abb
abb you are getting close to the real problem, schools are run by people that have no clue!

COSTS of Education, 20grand per student in Public School (and some private schools)are off the scale, and the schools still fail.

Start with the standard 70 Million Dollar Campus for a 3000 kid High School. First of all 3000 kids is one place is a recipe for failure to start.

And the Teachers and the Administration, and the School Board, all this adds up.

Plus, there is no control in the school, the students run the place.

20 percent of the students (3000 kid High School) should be in Jail, not school.

Oh, and they cannot pass the tests. Reading Comprehension is zero among that same 20 percent of students.

Oh, but we are an "A" rated school, yeah, you sure are because you COOK THE BOOKS!

Then we (The School District) will approve more "Charter" Schools, ok, and the budget you give a Charter School is 4800 dollars per student. And the School Board keeps the $15000 per student surplus to build more Taj Mahal High Schools to warehouse 3000 kids!

Folks, we need to privatize all school funding. Let the public schools compete and submit their ideas for a good school to a NON UNION, independent group of parents, just like charter schools do.

50 posted on 01/06/2015 5:41:07 AM PST by agincourt1415 (Stop Hillary)
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To: muir_redwoods
Well....In my homeschool, I insisted on primitive tools and rote memorization. I don't think their time was wasted. Why?

Result:

All three finished Calculus III and all college general courses by the age of 15. Two went on to complete B.S. degrees in mathematics by the age of 18. One earned a masters in math by 20. The oldest finished a masters in accounting at a typical age but was also a nationally and internationally ranked athlete and traveled the world representing the U.S.

Conclusion: My children used their time wisely and efficiently. And...No, they are not smarter than the kids of any other poster to freerepublic. They were simply taught in a rational and systematic manner.

51 posted on 01/07/2015 4:20:31 PM PST by wintertime
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To: wintertime

And mine learned to use 21st century tools because that’s where they plan on spending most of their time.


52 posted on 01/07/2015 4:23:34 PM PST by muir_redwoods ("He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative." G.K .C)
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To: muir_redwoods
So?....What good are the tools without learning math?

Answer: Not much.

If Thomas Jefferson were resurrected today, how long would it take for him to integrate into modern society with all of its “21st Century Tools”. Likely not long. Why? Because he wasn't a “tool”.

53 posted on 01/09/2015 3:07:05 PM PST by wintertime
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To: wintertime

Apparently reading skills are what we should be working on. FOR THE FOURTH TIME, I agree a basic understanding of the process is necessary but spending time, resources and effort on honing computational skills with paper and pencil in a world where no one does that professionally and calling it meaningful education is fraud.


54 posted on 01/09/2015 4:36:01 PM PST by muir_redwoods ("He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative." G.K .C)
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To: muir_redwoods
If all K-12 schooling were delivered privately. You would choose schools that best fit your educational philosophy and I would choose schools that best fit the needs of my children. Perhaps in such a system I would not have needed to homeschool.

The problem with state owned and delivered schooling is that there are endless curriculum and policy wars as citizens fight for their worldview. It's a serious cold war, since it is impossible for education to be religiously, culturally, and politically neutral. The winners get to control school content and the consequences are not neutral either for the individual or the nation.

55 posted on 01/10/2015 7:15:04 AM PST by wintertime
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