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To: BCW
Very beautiful firearm. How reliable is it though? I saw some discussion that to get absolute reliability from a 1911 one has to pay a lot of money for one of the top end variants, and then ensure that it is broken in. Some YouTube videos by some (brusque and outright rude) trainer even goes as far as saying he's never seen a 1911 make it through an entire training course.

In your experience and opinion, how reliable is the average (non-several thousand Dollar) 1911?

46 posted on 12/13/2014 10:24:25 AM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: spetznaz
In your experience and opinion, how reliable is the average (non-several thousand Dollar) 1911?

I've never paid over $1000 for a 1911. Over the years I've owned several (sold or traded them). I've found those 1911s to be very reliable. I've gone through numerous training courses and matches with them. I do agree, however, that they need to be cleaned and lubricated properly.

48 posted on 12/13/2014 10:37:14 AM PST by JoeFromSidney (Book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. Available from Amazon.)
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To: spetznaz
“trainer even goes as far as saying he's never seen a 1911 make it through an entire training course.”

A pretty broad generalization. A stock 1911 has a few deficiencies for competition shooting. The design of the chamber and ramp of the original design were excellent for handling military hardball ammunition. I have a very cheap stock Norinco that has never malfunctioned, but it has a lousy trigger, sights, grip, and other shortcomings that my match guns don't suffer from. I would bet my life that I could throw it in a glove box or console and not touch it and it would perform perfectly without worrying about babying it.
A fully tuned custom 1911 is very expensive if you can't do the work yourself, and the tighter everything fits together the more you have to clean and lube things to keep them going.

61 posted on 12/13/2014 12:32:49 PM PST by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: spetznaz

The Springfield made this just like the WW 1 ...this is reliable...I shoot mine - have others shoot it to test it...if you ever run out of rds - you can punch people in the face with it...the price on mine was $650...it came with 2 mag’s, cleaning tool, and case - plus twin magazine & thin holster for easy concealment...I purchased a paddle holster for the actual weapon (Blackhawk)...$750 - I ended up with a concealable pistol holster, magazine holster, 3 magazine (I purchased a Colt 8 rd), and the satisfaction of extreme firepower if I need it...

You could skip the paddle holster and use the one that comes with it (belt) - basically everything is in the case for $650 minus an extra 3rd magazine and you are set!

I wish I had this in Iraq instead of the Beretta M9 (9mm) and the Glock 17 (9mm) I had to carry...


70 posted on 12/14/2014 3:54:29 AM PST by BCW (ARMIS EXPOSCERE PACEM)
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