[ontap]

Of course.....that’s the stock market some win some lose. But when they’re bidding the market down we benefit. When they’re betting on the higher side we lose.

[thackney]

Do you doubt that speculative trading drove the oil price this low this fast?

[steve86]

But when they’re bidding the market down we benefit.

What is "bidding the market down"? Shorting stocks or futures puts upward pressure on the price of the instrument. Lack of bids at the offer price causes a lower price adjustment.