[kevkrom]

So there have been no adverse social or economic changes due to out sourcing our manufacturing infrastructure? The simple mindedness of the free traders is astounding....

Oddly enough, I said nothing of the sort.

What I did say way that I object to the use of government force to impose social or economic outcomes. Telling me about your objective doesn't change the fact that I a priori object to the government intervention in the first place.

Simple minded you call that? I find the view that big government is good when it happens to line up with your personal values far more simplistic.

[central_va]

So would you be in favor of completely replacing the income tax with a system of tariffs and national sales taxes?

Were Washington and Madison socialists?