Posted on 12/01/2014 3:48:46 PM PST by Morgana
A man who drove his wife for an abortion told a pro-life sidewalk counselor that he was a Christian and his dad was a preacher.
Allura Lightfoot regularly side-walk counsels outside abortion clinics in Central Florida. She speaks to a variety of people seeking child killing services at the All Women’s Health Center in Orlando, but recently she had a conversation with a self-proclaimed Christian who said he had to abort his child.
Allura told Life Dynamics that she was outside the abortion clinic when she spotted a couple driving in.
After the woman entered the abortion clinic, Allura noticed the man in the parking lot attending to a child. Allura asked if the woman he brought was his girlfriend and he replied, “It’s my wife.”
The man told her that the couple already had two kids, 5 months and 11 years, and, “we just can’t have another one.”
“I started sharing what the Bible says that children are a gift from God,” Allura said, “that we are to rescue those stumbling to slaughter.”
He said, “I know. I know.”
Allura said that she asked the man if he believed that he was a Christian and he answered, “I KNOW I’m a Christian.”
The pro-life woman was surprised but what the man said next was even more shocking.
Allura says that she reminded him that the Bible says that you shall not murder.
He told Allura, “I know all that. My daddy is a Preacher.”
“I asked what denomination and he said Christian,” Allura says,”I asked if he’d ever brought anyone else to kill his baby and he said yes. I asked how he deals with knowing that he sinned against God and his own child…”
According to the sidewalk counselor, the man replied, “I just deal with it! I pray!”
Allura asked him about repentance and then the abortion bound man told her, “I repent all the time. You gotta do what you gotta do, know what I mean? We already have 2 kids, can’t afford another one.” ”
Allura is not certain if the woman actually killed her unborn child. She says the woman eventually came out of the clinic and yelled at her to stop harassing her husband and then the couple quickly drove away.
Mark Crutcher, president of Life Dynamics responded to the idea that a person who supports abortion can claim to be a Christian, “A fundamental tenant of Christian doctrine is that God is the author of life and that he is incapable of making mistakes,” Crutcher stated, “Therefore, when life exists in the womb, it is God’s will that it be there. Since abortion denies God’s will, support for abortion by definition is incompatible with Christian belief. The bottom line is that only liars and fools contend that it is possible to reject innocent new lives created by God without rejecting God himself.”
“I just deal with it! I pray!”
Praying won’t do anything for you if you’re doing Satan’s work.
The term is apostate.... See Jude 1:4
anybody that supports abortion in any way shape or form does NOT have the Spirit of Christ within them! period, case closed, the fat lady has sung
That’s assuming he ever was a Christian to begin with.
This is what is called “cheap grace”.
I”m sure everyone does some kind of sin with the plan to ask for forgiveness later, yet I find it hard to believe that a man that lives like this is really outsmarting the almighty and is living under his grace.
Your thoughts Morgana?
Presuming that you can sin now and get absolution later . . . just adds another sin on top of the heap.
But it sounds like this guy may just be talking a line. I don't see him being a committed Christian - even the whacked out Episcopalians don't have this level of cognitive dysfunction. Probably a PK long since gone wrong . . .
Well, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Jeremiah Wright were all preachers.
Self-ordained or what we call “jack-leg preachers” - the religious equivalent of a “shade-tree mechanic”. Got their theology degree in a cereal box. I was going to say Crackerjacks, but guess these guys wouldn’t go there . . . >-<
Methinks the death lover doth protest too much.
When I was a youth, I was ordained once at a hot tub party by a guy who just pulled out a card, typed it up, and laminated it. Of course, I never tried to pass myself off as a real minister, but it is fun to pull the card out once in a while just to mess with people :)
My dad got one for his law partner: "Doctor of Fiscal Irresponsibility".
They also sponsored an annual essay contest, and some other fun events. I think the FTC eventually shut them down. No sense of humor.
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“This is what is called “cheap grace”.
I”m sure everyone does some kind of sin with the plan to ask for forgiveness later, yet I find it hard to believe that a man that lives like this is really outsmarting the almighty and is living under his grace.
Your thoughts Morgana?”
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Funny you should ask. Go to the link and take a look at the pictures of the man. Notice what color he is. Yea I’m thinking of a certain Margaret Sanger quote:
“We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population. And the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.”
I could go on and on quoting Margaret but I think you get the picture. Their church has been tainted. This man is having his wife kill their baby and I tell you now their marriage will not survive this.
This is beyond “cheap grace”. How any church could allow a lie like this to come through the front door is just beyond me. Were these “colored ministers” not true men of God not to see what was really happening back then? I have to believe some of them did not fall for this, and that some of them were just like modern TV preachers and were “paid off”. I don’t know but I really wonder how this could have happened on such a large scale.
Oh, yes, self-identified as “Christian”.
We don’t need “Preachers” to lead us to salvation.
We don’t need “Christians” for examples to live by.
We need to live our lives, each and every day, with Christ in our hearts.
One does not have to be religious to understand that murdering a child for convenience sake is simply wrong.
If what the man said is true, I will pray for him.
I cannot imagine feeling that I could not “afford” a baby.
What a horrible way to think about a baby.
and Westboro is a baptist church
You left out “Christian”.
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