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Ray Rice wins appeal, eligible to play
yahoo ^ | Jay Busbee

Posted on 11/28/2014 6:48:39 PM PST by BenLurkin

Rice had been suspended since Sept. 8 following the public disclosure of a videotape that showed Rice striking his then-fianceé in an Atlantic City elevator. Rice had been suspended for two games prior to the release of the videotape, but in the wake of public outrage — Rice knocked Janay Palmer unconscious with a punch — the NFL suspended Rice indefinitely.

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To: TBP

It doesn’t bring adulation, the public gives adulation. Shame on the public.


21 posted on 11/28/2014 8:02:56 PM PST by clintonh8r ( BRILLIANT, WITTY (but incendiary)TAG LINE REMOVED BY MODERATORS.)
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To: SeaHawkFan
I don't think Ray Rice will be suing anyone.

Keep in mind that there are actually three different considerations and points of view here from a legal/disciplinary standpoint:

1. The criminal justice system, through which Rice was allowed to cop a plea, would not face any jail time, and would have his record expunged if he completed a pre-trial intervention program.

2. The National Football League, which has some authority to discipline a player but learned today (as I predicted months ago) that this authority is not unlimited. The relationship between the NFL and individual players is governed by a collective bargaining agreement, and under the terms of that agreement the NFL is seriously constrained by what they can do to discipline a player who is physically capable of playing.

3. Individual NFL teams, who are the ones who actually sign contracts with their players and who actually serve as the players' employers (not the NFL).

Point #3 is critical here because even if the NFL cannot suspend a player indefinitely (again, I pointed this out months ago), an NFL team has a lot of latitude in canceling a player's contract for a number of reasons.

The arbiter today ruled that the NFL cannot suspend Rice indefinitely. Today's ruling does not, however, require the Baltimore Ravens to reinstate him. They cut him several weeks after this story began getting a lot of attention, and they have no obligation to put him back on their roster.

22 posted on 11/28/2014 8:09:12 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("The ship be sinking.")
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To: cherry

“the players union is shown for what it is....for covering up and excusing criminal and immoral behavior...

You need not cite the “players” union, this is common in all unions.


23 posted on 11/28/2014 8:12:02 PM PST by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: Popman
PC is killing the NFL I grant you, but in this the Courts should have NO authority on this matter.

Where's the passion to get Pete Rose reinstated in Baseball? All the man did was gamble, and NOT on his own team yet he's banned for life, his records don't exists anymore....

Waiting for you to start a campaign about that one.

24 posted on 11/28/2014 8:35:37 PM PST by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: EagleUSA

Actually, I believe firing him, and therefore cutting off his wife from 25 million dollars, was probably incentive enough for other wives to keep quiet.


25 posted on 11/28/2014 9:05:26 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: TBP

So much for the nfl public announcements/commercials they run during the games about domestic violence. Must not apply to the nfl, just us peons.

And i guess his wife is willing to get smacked around a couple of times a year to support her life style.


26 posted on 11/28/2014 9:06:15 PM PST by bravo whiskey (we shouldn't fear the government. the government should fear us.)
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To: T-Bird45

Sorry to disagree. One very idiotic event shouldn’t cost a person millions, particularly when the other party forgave him. The only entity that should be able to so that is the legal system: courts. Fortunately the arbitrator agreed the punishment didn’t fit the crime.


27 posted on 11/28/2014 11:39:12 PM PST by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Prosecutorial discretion decided not to prosecute.
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His then fiancee’ (now wife) did not file charges against him. What else could a DA do?

Unlikely that some NFL team would pick him up, with only a month or so left in the season.


28 posted on 11/29/2014 3:15:05 AM PST by octex
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To: BenLurkin

Must have been that touchy-feely interview designed to make him seem truly repentant and not a violent woman beater...


29 posted on 11/29/2014 4:45:08 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: TBP

Why? They welcomed Michael Vick back. So the precedent is set. People don’t watch football or buy tickets to the game worrying about the “character” of the players. They are mostly thugs ... Where’s the surprise?


30 posted on 11/29/2014 6:24:01 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag ($$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ DEFUND OBAMA! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$)
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To: Alberta's Child

Never said the Ravens would have to re-instate Ray Rice. I only said that Ray Rice will eventually get his money for the entire current season. If not for the NFL adding to the original punishment, Ray Rice would still be playing.

Just look at what is happening with the Penn State v. NCAA case. The NCAA is going to lose; and lose BIG.

The arbitrator in the Ray Rice case said the NFL office officials, and Goodell in particular, lied during the arbitration hearing.


31 posted on 11/29/2014 6:58:48 AM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: cherry
the players union is shown for what it is....for covering up and excusing criminal and immoral behavior...

Actually, the NFL attempted to minimize and excuse Rice's criminal behavior until public pressure "encouraged" the NFL to attempt to impose harsher punishment.

32 posted on 11/29/2014 7:03:22 AM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: SeaHawkFan

Rice won’t get any money. He was cut from the team before the original suspension was served. The judge “vacated” the second suspension, but that’s got nothing to do with his team cutting him. Unless he can show that some other team would have picked him up the best he’s got is an end to his suspension, and a big ol PR mess for any team dumb enough to pick up an aging RB that was clearly on the down side of his career.


33 posted on 11/29/2014 7:07:02 AM PST by discostu (YAHTZEE!)
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To: discostu

Rice will get paid for the season. All he has to do is demonstrate that he was cut only because of public pressure and pressure from the NFL.

If the Ravens don’t pay him, he will sue and win big if it goes to trial. The Ravens and the NFL cannot risk a trial and will settle for at least what he would have been paid this year; and possibly much more.

If the Raven’s try to withhold any of his guaranteed signing bonus (if any more is due), Rice will get that, too. Rice’s potential claims could include a federal wage claim for withheld pay, which would at least double what he is owed.


34 posted on 11/29/2014 10:34:03 AM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: SeaHawkFan

No he won’t. Public pressure wouldn’t do it. And there was no reason for the NFL to pressure the Ravens, they punished Rice.

The NFL has non-guaranteed contracts (unless specified individually), a team can cut a player any time and pay them nothing. It was fully within the Raven’s right to cut him, and they won’t pay him a dime that wasn’t in a guarantee clause. He can sue all he wants, he’ll lose. He was signed to an at will contract that one party had the ability to void at any time for any reason.

They’ll pay off, and probably already paid off, anything guaranteed. Anything else is gone. Just like any other cut player. He has no more wage claim than when the Redskin cut McNabb, not one penny.


35 posted on 11/29/2014 12:39:21 PM PST by discostu (YAHTZEE!)
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Ray Rice to join Ferguson police force...developing


36 posted on 11/30/2014 7:12:55 AM PST by Friendofgeorge (I AM OFFICER DARREN....CRUZ 2016 OR BUST)
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