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To: Olog-hai

I already know that the old hamburger Happy Meal from McD’s with a diet drink, is 350 calories. Which you can cut by 75 calories using only half the bun.

Subway has been printing that info on their subs since Jarred used them to lose weight.

I’d much rather they tell me what country it is from and if there is Paint Thinner in the breakfast cereal I buy for my grandson. Instead of hiding it by it’s chemical name! Or if the dairy I buy has growth hormones in it. He certainly does NOT need it.

I already know how to ration portions, snacks, etc. As I am forced to read all those labels for health reasons.

Why is Paint Thinner in children’s cereal?

http://www.seattleorganicrestaurants.com/vegan-whole-food/trisodium-phosphate-paint-thinner-in-consumer-products-kids-cereals.php

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCW5Nc9fyWg

http://www.sott.net/article/286205-The-FDA-approves-of-paint-thinner-as-ingredient-for-childrens-cereals

Ditto goes for the dog food I buy having antifreeze in it.
http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/red-flag-ingredients/propylene-glycol-dog-food-aid-or-automotive-anti-freeze/


21 posted on 11/25/2014 6:30:22 AM PST by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: GailA

Don’t know about those sources of yours, but trisodium phosphate is a solid and cannot be used as a paint thinner—only solvents can act in that role. Being a salt of sodium, though, its more common uses are in saponification (making soaps/detergents by reacting with greases/oils), as a cleaning agent (especially degreaser) and de-glossing of oil-based paints in order to make new coats of paint adhere better. Its food use is (reportedly) as an antioxidant.

Propylene glycol has very low toxicity compared to ethylene glycol, the most common automotive antifreeze; as far as its use as a RV/marine antifreeze, the low toxicity and low potential for environmental damage is the big safety point most touted.


23 posted on 11/25/2014 6:58:04 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: GailA
Your anti-freeze comment. Read this complete rebuttal of pretty much everything you've been told about propylene glycol.

"Hiding" it by using its chemical name? Seriously?

TSP is also quite benign. Its demonization by the enviro-nut movement has nothing to do with any health effects on humans, it's because the phosphate in it is a fertilizer, and excessive use can cause algae blooms where it is discharged into the water.

The links you provided show me a bunch of knee-jerk alarmism. Lots of emotion and shouting, but little in the way of rational factual information.

29 posted on 11/25/2014 9:14:58 AM PST by Don W (To laugh, perhaps to dream...)
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