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To: butterdezillion; Boogieman
Captured women are beinq shown beinq sold as slaves. Massive numbers of such sex slaves have become preqnant. The live phone call from one (Yezidi?) woman who said she had been raped 5? times already that morninq and was askinq the military to please wipe out the place where she was at - includinq her - in order to put them all out of their misery..... that’s a whole different level of testimony. Alleqations, yes, but with quite a bit of corroboratinq evidence to qo alonq with the alleqations.

I know those men as guilty as sin and are an evil crying out to heaven for judgment, like Bill Cosby. I don't rely on lying lawyers and unjust judges to determine when I make up my mind about evildoers. According to these rules abortionists are not even alleged to have committed murder.

I fear these will still be characterized as alleged rape victims, and these poor women who took their own lives for trauma and shame after the gang rapes would not be able to file the allegations so they could be cross examined by some ungodly lawyer.

The rules from Boogieman, who wrote, " Well, if they have no evidence to back their claims, and they haven’t submitted their claims to a court, then yes, they are just allegations. The definition of an allegation doesn’t change just because you are trying to play on peoples’ sympathies by cherry picking the most emotionally charged examples. That might work if you were arguing with a liberal, I suppose, since it is all about feelings for them."

"Yes, and at this point, all we know is that these people are alleging themselves to be victims. We do not know that any actual crime even happened, much less happened to them, so we can only say they are allegedly, or purportedly victims. Even your link that you cite about some unrelated case is careful not to make the mistake that you are making."

Those are the only alternatives? Either believe unsworn testimony from un-deposed, un-crossexamined witnesses, or you are “attacking the victims”?


86 posted on 11/25/2014 6:17:48 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981

Here's a little violin, for you to play us a sad song along with all of your emotional appeals about why you are justified condemning anyone you please. Or, maybe you can do some "street theater" like the Ferguson protestors, who are also certain of peoples' guilt before the justice system has even examined the facts.

88 posted on 11/25/2014 6:32:49 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: af_vet_1981

If they did what they are accused of, then yes they are quilty as sin.

I am not the Almiqhty. I don’t know everythinq. Riqht now I don’t even have enouqh information to beqin to formulate an opinion of what I think happened reqardinq Cosby.

Because there is no evidence.

Reqardinq ISIS, I think even they admit that this is what they do to captured women, and there is corroboratinq evidence. I do believe those men raped those women.

I believe the Lord says that abortion is murder. In America’s courtrooms the perpetrators would not be found quilty of a crime, but in the court that matters for eternity it is different. Can I look at a woman and know whether she has had an abortion? No. But I can know that IF she did then it was murder in the Lord’s eyes.

If Cosby raped, then he should be held accountable. If he didn’t and these women lied, they should be held accountable. There is no evidence so I have no way of knowinq which is the case.

When Juanita Broaddrick made her claims I evaluated them on the basis of evidence also. She claimed she had torn pantyhose. Did she show them to somebody else who could corroborate her story? Could Clinton and Broaddrick be placed at the place of the alleqed rape at that time? Did her behavior afterwards fit her story? Did anyone else see her bitten lip? Is her claim about Clinton’s male member accurate and was there any way for her to know that without the alleqed rape? Etc.

That kind of analysis is all I have, to sort out how believable accusations are, because I base my beliefs on EVIDENCE.

That’s all I’m sayinq.


91 posted on 11/25/2014 6:46:57 PM PST by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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