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Victoria police chief apologizes for ticket at soldier’s funeral
Victoria Daily Times-Colonist ^ | Nov 19, 2014 | Jeff Bell

Posted on 11/22/2014 5:50:13 AM PST by Don W

Victoria Police Chief Frank Elsner wants to meet with the Integrated Road Safety Unit after a ticket issued by one of its members led to a storm of reaction on social media and in the community.

Debbi Ferguson, a military veteran of 20 years, was pulled over by an IRSU officer as she and a number of other drivers accompanied the body of Pte. Steven Allen from Victoria International Airport to a funeral home on Remembrance Day. Allen, a 20-year-old Victoria High School graduate, died Nov. 3 in a training exercise in Wainwright, Alta.

The traffic officer, a member of the Victoria Police Department seconded to IRSU, issued Ferguson a $230 ticket for having an obscured licence plate. Rules say that plates can’t be obscured by things like dirt or tinted covers.

Ferguson said her car had a Canadian flag at half-mast as well as its four-way flashers going when she was stopped, but that did not deter the IRSU officer.

“What I’ve done is I’ve asked for a meeting with IRSU to really figure out what their mandate is in and around enforcement, and when they’re in our community,” Elsner said Wednesday.

Elsner said the incident involving Ferguson first came to his attention on the evening of Remembrance Day through social media.

“The next morning, I met with the family,” he said. “This is the part that broke my heart — they lost their son and now they’re talking to the police chief about something that happened.

“So I said, ‘I want to provide you my sincerest apology with no caveats.’ The dad actually shook my hand. He said: ‘That’s all I wanted to hear.’ ”

Elsner said his department responded further by providing a full police traffic escort for Allen’s Nov. 15 funeral.

He said he expects IRSU will look into all the circumstances around the ticket being issued.

“I’m going to do what’s right for our department, and the actual ‘What happened there?’ I’ll leave up to them.” - See more at: http://www.timescolonist.com/news/local/victoria-police-chief-apologizes-for-ticket-at-soldier-s-funeral-1.1600419#sthash.FSGqlYNL.dpuf


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The cops pull over a car in an honour procession to write a $230 ticket? Let's see the "Cops have a tough dangerous job" crew defend this one. The twists of logic should be most amusing.
1 posted on 11/22/2014 5:50:13 AM PST by Don W
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a $230 ticket for having an obscured licence plate.
Nope, no government gouging going on there. And the cop who issued this ticket deserves to be fired.
2 posted on 11/22/2014 5:59:53 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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A good cop would have gotten a rag and wipe the place to make it visible or removed whatever cover or issued a warning. A good cop that is ...


3 posted on 11/22/2014 6:00:18 AM PST by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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“And the cop who issued this ticket deserves to be fired.”

Only if this type of gouging was that cop’s personal idea. Most likely the cop’s actions reflect departmental policy and the town’s desire to use the Police force as a revenue generating device.

Those truly responsible should be tried and imprisoned.


4 posted on 11/22/2014 6:10:35 AM PST by Junk Silver
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To: Don W

Isolated incident.

The po-leece man went home safe.

No dogs were shot.


5 posted on 11/22/2014 6:11:07 AM PST by JParris
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“And the cop who issued this ticket deserves to be fired.”

I used to wonder why the soldiers under Hitler’s command would follow his orders to harm their own people........

Today it is even worse than it was in the early 1940’s....


6 posted on 11/22/2014 6:17:34 AM PST by tired&retired
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To: SkyDancer

Sorry, A good cop would not f with a funeral procession, no matter whether it was a veteran’s or not.


7 posted on 11/22/2014 6:19:06 AM PST by Glennb51
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To: SkyDancer

Sheriff Andy Taylor wouldn’t have pulled over a car in a military funereal.


8 posted on 11/22/2014 6:20:13 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (This is known as "bad luck". - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: SkyDancer
A good cop would have called ahead and told other officers, “You best ignore the covered plate and don't you DARE stop this funeral procession.”

I've read some bad (all inclusive) things LEOs have done, but that was probably the most classless act I've heard of.

9 posted on 11/22/2014 6:22:44 AM PST by Obstinate
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To: Don W

sorry.... now, will you be paying the $230 fine in cash or check?...


10 posted on 11/22/2014 6:36:34 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: Don W

Pretty low rent if you ask me.I guess cops in the Great White North have quotas to meet just as they do down here.


11 posted on 11/22/2014 6:36:43 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter;No Longer The Worst President In My Lifetime)
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To: Junk Silver

So just following orders is ok regardless of what those orders entail?? Were you also in Favor of the Nazi Death Camp guards because they were “Just Following Orders” of their Department?? Group Think ALWAYS leads to TYRANNY.


12 posted on 11/22/2014 6:45:22 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: SkyDancer

With all due respect, Please read it again. There was nothing to wipe. She had Canada’s National Colors attached to her vehicle in such a way that in a slow cortege with minimal airflow the flag drooped over the license plate. And the pompous, swaggering, bedwetting @$$hat cop pounced. Useless hunks of protoplasm like that cop really clench my jaws.


13 posted on 11/22/2014 6:46:04 AM PST by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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To: Don W
This happened in Victoria, BC; the Province of British Columbia California, on the Left Coast of Canada.
14 posted on 11/22/2014 6:55:27 AM PST by A Formerly Proud Canadian ((I once was blind but now I see...))
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Funny thing, I got pulled over by this same unit in August. Even though I blew 0.05, I got a fine ($200), had to buy my DL back ($250), and had to pay an administration fee ($31). Even though I had broken no law, I was fined rather harshly for daring to have 2 beer at 9 pm on a Thursday. At least they didn’t tow my car!

It gets better! I appealed this event ($100) and learned that there is no court, no appearance before an adjudicator, just some bureaucrat in an office reads your presentation, the cop’s writeup then decides your fate. Can you say “Star Chamber”?

Not only that, but IF you want to appeal, you MUST have all your information together and at the DMV within 7 days of the driving prohibition!

2 1/2 weeks after I jump all the hoops and dance on the barrel, a letter from the DMV arrives informing me that “since they are unable to process my appeal within the 21 days from the receipt of the ‘Application for Review’ stipulated in the regulation, the DMV has unilaterally extended the time span for its review.”

You can guess what the final outcome was. BTW, no refund on the appeal fee either.

So I am out $581 for breaking no law. Nice, huh?


15 posted on 11/22/2014 7:01:07 AM PST by Don W (To laugh, perhaps to dream...)
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To: Don W

The Integrated Road Safety Unit, more commonly known as IRSU, was formed in 2004 and is made up of 110 traffic enforcement officers from the RCMP and Municipal Police


16 posted on 11/22/2014 7:02:11 AM PST by BillM (.)
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To: JParris
No dogs were shot.

...yet. The weekend is still young.

17 posted on 11/22/2014 7:11:30 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi!)
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To: Don W

“It’s a free country ... isn’t it?”

Love, Meg


18 posted on 11/22/2014 7:28:08 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Pointing out dereliction of duty is NOT fear mongering, especially in a panDEMic)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Sheriff Andy would have pulled in behind the procession to offer an escort, would have indiscreetly wiped off the offending license plate while the car was parked at the cemetery and stood at attention honoring the soldier during the funeral. I can't tell you how many retired cops I've heard say they would never have gone into law enforcement and how embarrassed they are at the thug mentality cops have today.
19 posted on 11/22/2014 7:35:20 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: NonValueAdded

Well, it used to be...


20 posted on 11/22/2014 7:46:30 AM PST by Don W (To laugh, perhaps to dream...)
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