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To: FreeperinRATcage

I’m sorry, I don’t accept the “lack of a threat” explanation.

Given the state of medicine and science in west africa, the findings are not reassuring and not a guarantee. Can you cite through studies conducted on the ground through the sea of high infection. Can you guarantee me with your financial support that no one who is not symptomatic is infectious?

The president has let the virus into the country and continues to leave the door open.

The CDC and the president have lied several times.

The people being exposed are not following protocol when returning home.

So excuse me if I don’t buy your position.


29 posted on 10/29/2014 1:47:33 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: morphing libertarian
You don't have to "buy my position" I don't have the ego that requires everyone to share my opinion. All I require is to be left alone to live my life as granted by my rights, derived from God and guaranteed by the constitution.

A group of "Constitutionalists" who constantly trump the first and second amendment irrespective of others irrational fears (correctly, IMHO) must respect the rights of all, or they are just hypocrites.

Guidelines in place in hospitals and EMS agencies country wide specify three major items identifying a possible ebola case:

1: Abdominal or GI distress.

2: A fever of greater than 101dg F

3:A recent travel history to 3 specific countrys (Guinea,Sierra Leone, or Liberia) or contact with a an individual who has traveled there in the past 21 days.

ALL of these criteria must be met for the patient to have any chance of being infected with ebola. This would constitue probable cause to hold someone in the public interest. Absense of any of these conditions means absense of probable cause to hold the person, unless you want to count fear as a probable cause.

FREEgards,

43 posted on 10/29/2014 2:02:21 PM PDT by FreeperinRATcage (I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for every thing I do. - R. A. Heinlein)
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To: morphing libertarian
I think you meant asymptomatic and therefore not infectious. Somewhere I posted on the Ebola Surveillance Thread about a report from Doctors Without Boarders in Liberia. They reported asymptomatic super carriers. The two they mentioned I believe were young teens. They had no fever nor overt symptoms of viral shedding.

The entire meme of not being infectious until fever is CDC messaging. Over 12% of patients never develop a fever while becoming symptomatic. That is in the WHO reports. Logic would indicate that ebola patients are still infectious prior to the 88% who develop fever. They are more infectious when they become symptomatic and shed virus with feces, vomit and blood. During the end stage of the disease as in the case of Duncan, they expel up to 8 liters a day of mostly diarrhea and vomit.
66 posted on 10/29/2014 7:52:58 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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