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Trekonomics: Is Star Trek Really “Anti-Libertarian”?
The Federalist ^ | October 22, 2014 | Robert Tracinski

Posted on 10/23/2014 6:11:58 AM PDT by C19fan

Reason‘s Nick Gillespie recently posted a list of the five most anti-libertarian television shows ever, and there’s a serious error. Actually, there are two serious errors. The first, larger error is that Reason put together a list of the five best libertarian TV shows, and they left off “Firefly,” which simply boggles the mind.

The smaller error is that Gillespie names “Star Trek” among the anti-libertarian shows. Even worse is the reason he gives: “The Starship Enterprise’s adventures throughout the galaxy are supposedly guided by the Federation’s ‘prime directive,’ which forbids humans from intervening in the domestic affairs of the planets they visit. And yet…Captain James T. Kirk is mucking around with every civilization from here to the Romulan Neutral Zone like LBJ on Viagra.”

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TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: finalfrontier; libertarian; star; startrek; trek
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What one can call the economics of the Deep Space 9 series is a Ron Paul dream. It seems the only acceptable medium of exchange are bars of metal called Latinum.
1 posted on 10/23/2014 6:11:58 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

And barter. Ferengi love to barter. Gold pressed latinum is simply a highly valuable commodity.


2 posted on 10/23/2014 6:14:45 AM PDT by arderkrag (NO ONE IS OUT TO GET YOU.)
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"It seems the only acceptable medium of exchange are bars of metal called Latinum."

Only as "gold-pressed" latinum. Latinum in its pure state is a liquid.

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Latinum
3 posted on 10/23/2014 6:20:09 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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Well, as far as the libertarian party is concerned, Star Trek was anti-libertarian.

To an astronomical degree.

You never saw Kirk or Picard intimate with a child. That is part and parcel of the history of the libertarian political party, so yeah Star Trek has been deeply anti libertarian if you look at it in that light.


4 posted on 10/23/2014 6:20:32 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: arderkrag

The big takeaway there is

THE CURRENCY HAS INHERENT VALUE.


5 posted on 10/23/2014 6:21:27 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: C19fan

>>>What one can call the economics of the Deep Space 9 series is a Ron Paul dream. It seems the only acceptable medium of exchange are bars of metal called Latinum.<<<

Actually the Latinum is a precious liquid pressed inside the worthless gold packaging. :)

DS9 was definitely much more pro capitalism than any of the other series. I also loved that in the film “First Contact” Earth was saved, not by Socialist humanitarians, but by a greedy Capitalist innovator, who used his genius to invent warp drive technology for personal profit.

My favorite Star Trek scene, from DS9

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx5I7uEEEYo


6 posted on 10/23/2014 6:22:54 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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Abrahan Lincoln said that human behavior can be modified to some extent but human nature cannot be changed, Star Trek or no.
One theme of the series was that Earth had done away with money.

It was a WONDERFUL series and I've been a Trekkie from the late '60's but it WAS a fantasy. I knew that then too.

LIVE LONG AND PROSPER.

7 posted on 10/23/2014 6:24:55 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: C19fan

http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Essays/Trek-Marxism.html


8 posted on 10/23/2014 6:26:50 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (Thad is a thud for me)
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To: Above My Pay Grade

I see your clip and raise you one more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmcGUUSPvKM


9 posted on 10/23/2014 6:35:43 AM PDT by Ingtar (The NSA - "We're the only part of government who actually listens to the people.")
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To: Above My Pay Grade

“I’m human. I don’t need money.”

That probably sums up Gene Roddenberry’s utopian view of the future in just a few words.

Good clip.


10 posted on 10/23/2014 6:36:07 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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Ever wonder why 99% of planets that Kirk & Co. visited had one world government?

And those that didn't always had two warring factions that Kirk & Co. just HAD to get together to sing Kumbaya.

11 posted on 10/23/2014 6:47:04 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (To be fair, it's not part of the procedure to screw it up, so I didn't have instructions to undo it.)
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Here is another good one, with Nog explaining the Great Material Continuum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8hcHXwqPEo


12 posted on 10/23/2014 6:48:46 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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To: Above My Pay Grade

Will watch later. Thank you.


13 posted on 10/23/2014 6:51:25 AM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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And this is one of my favourite scenes from DS9.
14 posted on 10/23/2014 6:51:48 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Above My Pay Grade

Ya beat me to it. That is one of my favourite scenes in DS9.


15 posted on 10/23/2014 6:52:23 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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16 posted on 10/23/2014 6:53:02 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: MrEdd

I remember an article on how the Federation is a fascist state.
Bashir’s parents faced a Star Fleet judge for their genetic enhancement of their son. That’s the equivalent of standing before a military judge instead of a civilian one.
Star Fleet captains are famous, as if they are the celebrities of their era. Civilian celebrities aren’t really known, though a few musicians are mentioned and scientists shown.
Star Fleet captains practically violate the Prime Directive five minutes after citing it, but rarely face consequences for it. A prime law for thee but not for me.
Star Fleet seems to manage interstellar communications, even for civilians. That’s like the Army or NSA controlling international phone calls, instead of just monitoring them.
Star Trek’s humans are utterly atheistic except for those few who fled Earth (Chakotay’s ancestors, who left earth to keep their culture).
Jake Sisko works for a Federation News Service, like Pravda.
In “Homefront”, you don’t see civilian police on Earth, all Starfleet.


17 posted on 10/23/2014 6:57:26 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: C19fan; prisoner6
Bigger error in the original Reason article:

The Prisoner follows a British secret agent who wants to walk away from it all but ends up a captive of the very government he once served.

Nowhere is it made clear WHO runs the Village. It could be "Us", it could be "Them", it could be a non-aligned third party, it could be a collaborative effort of any combination of the above. (Or, #6 went crazy and it all happened inside his head, or a dozen other psychological, metaphorical and ultimately less satisfying explanations)
18 posted on 10/23/2014 7:11:29 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you're litigating against nuns, you've probably done something wrong."-Ted Cruz)
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To: MrEdd

If you have encountered any self identified Libertarians who believe sexually abusing a child is acceptable behavior then I’d suggest they have misidentified themselves. One’s individual liberty stops when its exercise deprives another of theirs. Children under law are not able to give consent to the kind of intimate relations you allude to and anyone who believes otherwise is simply a monster who should be locked away or worse. Not sure anyone has ever surveyed the political leanings of NAMBLA or the American Psychiatric Association membership but the chances are you will find most if not all of them vote Democrat.


19 posted on 10/23/2014 7:14:46 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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Whoa whoa whoa.

I am talking about historical official party platforms from the eighties. Not some mere anecdotal incidents with people who I have known. Libertarian Party members of today do not get to make their party’s history go away.

The Democrats were the party of slavery and The Libertarians were the party of child sex rights.

They both earned that.


20 posted on 10/23/2014 7:23:23 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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