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Microsoft reveals audacious plans to tighten security with Windows 10
ZDNet ^ | 10/22/2014 | Ed Bott

Posted on 10/22/2014 2:02:45 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 10/22/2014 2:02:45 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Finally they focus on something important instead of dicking around with stupid GUIs.


2 posted on 10/22/2014 2:07:23 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I do not believe it. The test version has you being recorded. I do not think Microsoft will give up the NSA version.


3 posted on 10/22/2014 2:21:26 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Jeff Chandler

+1 I might have to upgrade my win7 when 10 becomes available.


4 posted on 10/22/2014 2:24:39 PM PDT by MulberryDraw (Repeal it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The only way any OS Windows will ever be even close to secure is if Microsoft quits automatically giving superuser privilege to ALL user accounts by default, and instead making all new installation instances of Windows OS default to having an Admin account with superuser privilege and one or more limited-privilege accounts for the user(s) to do their daily work.

In addition, by default, NO .exe or .dll or other binary program should be executable in the context of any limited-privilege account, meaning that all binary software MUST first be installed from a superuser account for the system to use as a whole. It will also most likely be necessary to prevent even non-binary programs from running in the user-context without explicitly granting them permission.

That would solve about 99.999% of the malware problems and until that is done everything else is just adding additional ineffective security band-aids on top of a whole pile of other, older, ineffective security band-aids.

Furthermore, my experience with those piles of security band-aids is that malware finds a way around them every time, and then those “security” band-aids turn into major impediments for removing the malware. In other words, the security measures don’t block the malware, but does block the sys admin efforts.


5 posted on 10/22/2014 2:28:32 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: SeekAndFind
This is the second time an article about the next version of Windows call it version 10.x?

What happened to version 9?

6 posted on 10/22/2014 2:30:37 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it? Do you like it, Scott? I call it, "Mr. & Mrs. Tenorman Chili.")
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To: SeekAndFind

When I worked there as a contractor not too many years ago they were yapping about making windows more secure. Wished I had saved the propaganda posters. Like most things at MS its more marketing and hype than actual working product. I really dont know why theyre taking security on yet again. Third parties do a much better job....until MS buys them out.


7 posted on 10/22/2014 2:33:00 PM PDT by 556x45
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To: SeekAndFind

If I had to guess, somewhere in all this users will have to connect to Microsoft’s servers, give Microsoft their credit card details and be pushed to buy apps from Microsoft.


8 posted on 10/22/2014 2:34:24 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: Lx

It was called 8.1


9 posted on 10/22/2014 2:34:52 PM PDT by antidisestablishment (When the passion of your convictions surpass those of your leader, it's past time for a change.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bring back Windows XP, or at least rebrand it as a budget OS for those who don’t want the bells and whistles. XP was the greatest OS of all time. (Muhammad Ali voice) - “OF ALL TIME!”


10 posted on 10/22/2014 2:44:40 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (15 years of FReeping! Congratulations EEE!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Don’t worry. The next version of Windows, Windows 15 will correct that. Mostly. Somewhat.


11 posted on 10/22/2014 2:47:08 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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“The only way any OS Windows will ever be even close to secure is if Microsoft quits automatically giving superuser privilege to ALL user accounts by default, and instead making all new installation instances of Windows OS default to having an Admin account with superuser privilege and one or more limited-privilege accounts for the user(s) to do their daily work.”

It doesn’t do that. It only forces you to set up one admin account when you first set up the machine. Any other users you add after that, whether they are manually added, or simply logged in through a network domain, default to standard users unless upgraded to an admin by another admin user.

The reason every user ends up an admin is because the standard users can’t do much of anything. They can’t install a printer, for example, or install an ActiveX control that you might need to work on some web app. So, people end up upgrading all users to admins just to avoid the hassles.


12 posted on 10/22/2014 2:56:03 PM PDT by Boogieman
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They need to stop having every program be required to be installed, and most should not even be allowed. Nor should any program be able to go modify setting for windows and everything else willy nilly. Right now every piece of crapware installs itself, adds a stupid toolbar, redirrects all your web use, and throws in some popups for a bonus. Plus it can decide to start itself when you turn on your computer, and often even override being disabled or removed.

It ought to be forbidden unless you click a lot of checkboxes from windows authorizing stuff to mess with other program’s private data and settings. If normal programs had no power to change settings or modify data except for their own, it wouldn’t be necessary to click through authorizing the install of everything with your admin password that it gets so common and routine that anyone could get tricked into allowing it, which is common now.


13 posted on 10/22/2014 2:56:40 PM PDT by Hardslab
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, its only taken them 35 years


14 posted on 10/22/2014 2:57:25 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (Liberals claim to want to hear other views, but then are shocked to discover there are other views)
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To: SeekAndFind

The NSA will not allow it.


15 posted on 10/22/2014 2:58:33 PM PDT by uncitizen (Buckle up! We're on the Facism Fast Track!)
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To: Lx
What happened to version 9?

They skipped it. Many applications contain code to check the version number of Windows, and assume Windows 95 or 98 if the version number starts with 9.

Rather than break all that old code they went to 10.

16 posted on 10/22/2014 2:59:06 PM PDT by ken in texas
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To: ken in texas

What if it assumes Windows 1.0?


17 posted on 10/22/2014 3:00:09 PM PDT by dfwgator (The "Fire Muschamp" tagline is back!)
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To: dfwgator

LOL. If I had an app that old I might try it out if I ever get Windows 10.


18 posted on 10/22/2014 3:03:49 PM PDT by ken in texas
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Bring back Windows XP, or at least rebrand it as a budget OS for those who don’t want the bells and whistles. XP was the greatest OS of all time. (Muhammad Ali voice) - “OF ALL TIME!”

Really?

Some folks set their sights pretty low I guess.

19 posted on 10/22/2014 3:03:52 PM PDT by zeugma (The act of observing disturbs the observed.)
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“The reason every user ends up an admin is because the standard users can’t do much of anything. “

Exactly my point. And yet the default installation gives these clueless users superuser privilege by default.


20 posted on 10/22/2014 3:06:04 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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