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To: PennsylvaniaMom
I disagree and quite strongly. Unions exist to suppress the flow of facts. This news only came about because of an individual bravely going over the heads of union goons. When heath care workers are unionized, sloppy habits prevail. Proof? Compare a car made in a factory where there's freedom versus one made in by union thugs. Since you're in Pennsylvania, I'm sure your familiar with how unions wrecked New Stanton with VW and the mess in nearby Lordstown, OH, all due to unions.

I simply can't trust my health to a nurse or even a janitor in a union. I know I'm right. Almost 40 years ago, I busted a union in Western Pennsylvania. When the deadwood (some with 35+ years of seniority) was shed, profits improved and we who remained did better.

24 posted on 10/14/2014 9:36:20 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: re_nortex
how dare you compare union thugs with professional, degreed registered nurses....

nurses are not in it for the money, the prestige, nor the glorious hours, nor the back breaking work....they're in so they can help people....

hey, if nurses would ever get serious they could actually earn the wages pensions and benefits of every other community type worker, like teachers, cops, and firemen...

66 posted on 10/14/2014 10:44:53 PM PDT by cherry
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To: re_nortex

I am personally aware of the havoc and TOTAL loss of jobs that the UAW wrought upon New Stanton (I live in Westmoreland County); and growing up it was obvious the USW was killng the American steel industry w/out of control wages/contracts. For the most part I see the problems powerful unions bring today (SEIU!) but, in this instance, I cannot think that anyone nurse would risk their license to call out the malfeasance that seems to have happened between the CDC and Dallas Presbyterian.

Trash piled up to the ceiling? Maybe NOT the ceiling, but if housekeeping isnt on Level 4 infection control (remember Freidan said EVERY hospital here is “ready for Ebola”) then what happens? It piles up til the protocol is determined on HOW to safely remove. Again, would one rogue nurse take to the media and be heard? Would that nurse be hired again? Keep her license? But, in THIS CASE an organized nurses Union can do MORE to call out the failures of the system (and I place blame at both the hospital and CDC) and instigate changes in the protocols.

My husband watched Megyn Kelly tonight. He was STUNNED that Freidan said HAIR/NECK coverings were unnecessary. Think about that....thats the type of issue reps of the nurses (again, their union) IS SCREAMING about.

Nurses, I have found are almost exclusively patient advocates, in this deadly situation, they NEED organized advocates.


85 posted on 10/14/2014 11:56:02 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom ( Just because you are paranoid, it doesn't mean they aren't out to get you...)
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To: re_nortex

I’m not a unionized RN, though I am an RN. To be fair, while even the Nurses unions are a bit PC, the main ones are fiercely pro nurse and working conditions. They are not as money oriented...they are mostly about working conditions, hour and staffing ratios. The kind of stuff unions should be about, not the political stuff.


99 posted on 10/15/2014 3:25:37 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: re_nortex

I tend to agree. Nurse unions are second to teachers in difficulty and bitching about everything.

Getting the nurses to accept any change in work rules is a major deal.

Individually nurses are wonderful. As a group...they are terrifying.


105 posted on 10/15/2014 3:52:42 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Ebola: Death is a lagging indicator.)
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