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To: alexander_busek
Federalists like Ms Franco have doubled down on their adoration of the state and are using the War between the States as a propaganda tool to relieve us of religious beliefs (for the good of the state):

per Jason Coffman - August 2014:

Abraham Lincoln was a Marxist and a traitor. He appointed many of the German 48ers (fleeing Germany after a failed Marxist revolution) to his top Generals and Staff during the War of Northern Aggression (Civil War is a misnomer).

He himself had close ties to Karl Marx, and Marx himself was a supporter of the Union's cause in the war (because he understood that cause was to advance socialist ideals).

Lincoln ripped to shreds the Constitution, suspending Habeas Corpus (a Right, not a privilege, as is suggested in the Constitution [another example of Federalist victory]) and imprisoning those in the North who spoke out against his actions. He had hund reds of thousands of men slaughtered, both North and South and he forcefully (unethically, immorally and unlawfully if we are to lend any credence at all to the unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America [know commonly as the Declaration of Independence]). He also created the Internal Revenue Service in 1862, which still exists today as the collection agents for the Federal Reserve System.

16 posted on 10/10/2014 8:22:36 AM PDT by x_plus_one (Russia is now our best hope for stopping the conquest of the progressives)
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To: x_plus_one
Abraham Lincoln was a Marxist and a traitor.

If only there was a single shred of evidence of Lincoln having ever heard of Marx.

He appointed many of the German 48ers (fleeing Germany after a failed Marxist revolution) to his top Generals and Staff

The revolutions of 1848 were not Marxist. They were liberal-democratic against monarchies and aristocrats. The 48ers were, in the main, the educated middle class who wanted more representation in government and were crushed. They fled to the US where they became very successful, including as generals. Marx was another guy writing pamphlets at that point.

He himself had close ties to Karl Marx, and Marx himself was a supporter of the Union's cause in the war (because he understood that cause was to advance socialist ideals).

Okay, here's the full extent of the documented contact between Lincoln and Marx:

On January 28, 1865, a letter was delivered to Charles Francis Adams, the US ambassador to Great Britain. It was titled "Address of the International Working Men's Association to Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States of America." In it, Marx and his committee congratulate Lincoln on being reelected and he hopes that ending slavery will improve the lot of working class.

On that same day Adams writes a thank you note which says, in effect, I sent your letter on and he says thanks. Vague political platitudes follow which don't really mean much. You can read both letters here. But unless you're going to believe that Adams immediately rushed to the telegraph and wired this letter to Lincoln, who was in the middle of organizing the first direct communication with Jefferson Davis to set up the Hampton Roads Conference (His envoy, Blair, returned from Richmond that day)and that Lincoln dropped everything to telegraph his secret pledge of allegiance to Marx, it's hard to believe that Adams didn't just dictate a standard thank you and put the letter on the stack of stuff to be transmitted when they get to it, or wait to go over in the next boat.

The amount of other evidence that Lincoln had ever even heard of Marx is zero.

Lincoln ripped to shreds the Constitution, suspending Habeas Corpus (a Right, not a privilege, as is suggested in the Constitution [another example of Federalist victory])

You do know that that the constitution says “The Privileges of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.” right?

25 posted on 10/10/2014 12:05:08 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels"-- Tom Waits)
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To: x_plus_one; rockrr
"Jason Coffman" (whoever that is) is an idiotarian.

Lincoln had no ties to Karl Marx. Marx praised Lincoln for ending slavery, but really who wouldn't? That doesn't mean Lincoln approved of Marx or was aware of his theories.

Whatever Lincoln's sins against civil liberties, they were shared by Davis and by other American governments at war. Temporary measures to save the union weren't continued after the war, nor was the income tax.

You idiotarian's spiel is based on an accident of history. If Marx had been born a hundred years earlier, he would probably have found good words for Washington and Jefferson, the revolutionaries of that era.

28 posted on 10/10/2014 2:18:32 PM PDT by x
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To: x_plus_one

Congratulations. I believe that you have taken the record for the most inaccurate claims in a single post in all FR recorded history. Give yourself a big pat on the back.


29 posted on 10/12/2014 4:55:39 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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