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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Re your Henry Ford quote, that’s why I stick to Jesus’ “Greatest Commandment” and leave any damnation to God.
Because all those self-important Christians who teach damnation and rejection risk breaking people’s spirit in the name of teaching about Christ. As a result, their victims come to “think they can’t” - and then they are finished. And these “Christians” think God doesn’t see what they’ve done.

Oh, it’s “only” ideas, and everyone is responsible for their own minds? Yeah, that’s true. But then why do Special Forces spend so much time on positive, supportive mental training? Aren’t they all just responsible for their own minds? And which of us isn’t harmed by negative talk - let alone the extreme of being damned?

Baby. Bathwater.

That’s why even Jesus warned we will be judged as we have judged, and not to harm His “little ones.” But people just love to defend their hardness against others. And then they look with wonder at the rage so many liberals have for Christians, willing to hate America and accept murderous Islam. Well wonder not. Because if you damn someone, or teach them to believe they are damned, and you don’t kill them, then what happens to them? Do they bow to your ego’s interpretation of scripture? Nope, they turn to hate. Why not? After all, they’re already damned. And then? And then they vote Democrat.

Just look at what is on this woman’s shirt. Her article is very good, a glimpse into the despair and futility that poverty creates in America. But so what? After all, she’s a sinner. Pray for her, but remember the fact of her poverty proves she’s not to be taken seriously on spiritual matters. Or have you ever worked hard, been disciplined and careful, succeeded, and then looked at your success and admitted to yourself that the success was sheer grace? That despite all your proper effort, success is a gift from God and things easily could have turned out bad?

Yes? Then you get what I’m saying about poverty. No? Then you have some hard lessons ahead of you, friend.

Maybe I’ve gone on to much here. But the Democrats don’t think so. They think what I’m talking about is marvelous - the very root dynamic they are counting on Christians never getting past. And looking around, I truly wonder if they’re right. I never would have said that before, but I do now.

Breaking someone’s spirit is soul murder.

And God is not mocked.

That’s why there are places even angels fear to tread.

/rant


26 posted on 09/30/2014 4:11:22 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

How is that quote a “damnation” of anyone?


33 posted on 09/30/2014 4:54:35 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: Talisker

Wow! That is quite a rabbit trail/tirade and strawman hit piece. While a significant portion of any group of humans may be negative, the Gospel of Christ is not.

Christians regularly minister to the every faction and are hardly judgmental on an individual basis. That whole “love the sinner; hate the sin thing.”

Nothing is more liberating it humbling than the gospel-simply put we are sinners in need of a Savior. How is that damning? Seems to me that it puts people on the same footing and allows no pride in one’s own works or righteousness.

As for the liberal rage thing, it’s a reaction to this very principle. Liberals don’t just think they (and mankind) are good, they put themselves (and their works, beliefs and institutions) in the position of man’s savior. Opposing them is heresy and any god beyond or above man is abhorrent.

Accusing Christians as a whole of self righteousness is using just as broad a brush as you condemn.


36 posted on 09/30/2014 5:13:51 PM PDT by antidisestablishment
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To: Talisker

I think you misjudge people.

I would bet that many people at this site have been poor at one time or another, and a fair percentage are probably going through tough straits right now.

They could teach a seminar on how you get through tough times with your soul intact. Because they have lived it.

They don’t look down on people who are struggling to make it, in fact I’d say most people here view people who are struggling with great respect.


40 posted on 09/30/2014 7:14:14 PM PDT by marron
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