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Arguing with the Left: We Are Doing It Wrong!
Western Free Press ^ | September 14 2014 | Greg Conterio

Posted on 09/17/2014 9:32:45 AM PDT by Heartlander

Arguing with the Left: We Are Doing It Wrong!

| September 14 2014

If you have ever tried arguing with a liberal, leftist or progressive, at some point you have inevitably come away frustrated by your apparent inability to “win” an argument, despite proving conclusively the other side is objectively wrong. The subject doesn’t matter, it could be the failure of Obama’s foreign policy, the IRS targeting scandal, tax policy, (lack of) Global Warming, or “helping” the poor. There in fact is a literal parade of liberal/leftist social policies and issues that have been unequivocal, abject failures, yet no matter how many facts and figures you can marshal, your argument falls flat, and your opponent remains completely un-swayed. Have you ever wondered why this is?

Best-selling thriller-author Robert Bidinotto offers an explanation:

One of the most valuable insights I discovered in recent years is how Narratives trump everything else — including what most of us would call concern for “practical results.”

For example, consider liberalism. Have decades upon decades of liberal policy failures deterred liberals from being liberals? Have the trillions of dollars blown on welfare-state programs since the “New Deal” and the “War on Poverty” made a damned bit of difference in curing poverty? And has that failure convinced “progressives” that there is something fundamentally wrong in their worldview and approach? Have the horrendous historical consequences of appeasement policies stopped today’s politicians from appeasing international thugs and terrorists? No?

Then why does anyone assume that liberals gauge the value of their worldview by the standard of its PRACTICAL CONSEQUENCES?

Practical consequences are ALWAYS trumped by the advancement and protection of one’s core Narrative: the fairy tale that gives one’s life meaning, coherence, and moral justification.

When I linked last week to Simon Sinek’s seminal 18-minute talk, “Start With WHY,” it became obvious to me that he was saying exactly the same thing that I have been saying, in different language, with a different emphasis.

Sinek points out that customers are not attracted to a company primarily because of the merits of its products (i.e., the results of its policies); nor are voters attracted to politicians primarily because of the merits of their policy prescriptions and “eight point plans” (i.e., the goals of their policies). They are attracted because — as he puts it — “People don’t buy WHAT you do; they buy WHY you do it.”

People do things — e.g., vote for you, buy your products, donate to your cause — that prove, affirm, and reinforce what they ALREADY BELIEVE. They act to conform to and confirm their deep-rooted beliefs.

In other words: They act in conformance to their CORE NARRATIVE. Doing that makes them feel good about themselves. And they would far rather feel good about themselves than actually achieve any of their stated practical objectives. It’s not about the objectives at all. It’s about THEM.

Consider some other examples.

The terrible CONSEQUENCES of pursuing this Narrative do not matter to him in the least. He measures his “success” by a completely different calculus: merely by the intensity of his commitment to “fundamentally transform” America. As long as he keeps undoing the Constitution and the free market system, he believes he’s on the “right path.” And that’s why, while his entire agenda collapses around him in practical terms, he remains smugly arrogant and condescending toward all critics.

His diehard supporters and leftist followers are the same way: not in the least contrite, no matter what disasters they visit upon the nation. They take zero responsibility for those disasters. Their Narrative exonerates them, and twists facts to blame it all on their enemies.

That is why they can watch, in passive, blithe bemusement, while Russia starts to gobble up territory in surrounding nations; while China continues its massive navy-building binge; while ISIS maintains a safe haven in Syria while proclaiming its intentions to launch horrific attacks on the American homeland; while Iran, a hotbed of militant Islam, builds its nuclear weapons; while nutcase North Korea continues to expand its nuclear arsenal; while millions of individuals — undoubtedly including foreign terrorists — pour across our borders into America without so much as a criminal record check, and are aided and abetted by the Regime in being scattered all over America, then subsidized.

It’s all about, ONLY about, reinforcing and implementing the Narrative. Nothing else — NOTHING, no matter how bad — matters.

I believe Mr. Bidinotto is on to something here. I have often remarked how liberals/leftists/progressives are generally impervious to facts, all they seem able to do is regurgitate the accepted talking-points on the issue at hand, then blithely go forth and pull the handle for the guy with the (D) next to his name on election day. It had never occurred to me to think about this in terms of how the left sees themselves, and their “relationship” with the narrative or “story” they want so desperately to be true. So desperately in fact they will completely ignore or disregard reality itself if it gets in the way of their belief in the story. The narrative truly does trump all. And, it’s something we on the right lack. It is why we have such a hard time winning at the polls, why despite the complete and continuing failure of their policies and issues, so many people continue to blindly support liberal-democrats. It explains why so many like to repeat the calumnious propaganda about people on the right all being greedy, racist homophobic war-mongers who hate children and want old people to live in the street and eat cat food, all despite the complete lack of even the tiniest bit of first hand proof or evidence supporting these stereotypes. It’s all part of the narrative.

I believe this phenomenon is also related to the most frequent criticism of the Republicans going into the mid-term election in November: they have no plan. You can hear this repeated over and over again in the conservative punditry: the Republicans have no plan, they are giving us no reason to vote for them. Of course this may not matter in terms of the outcome this election, the Democrats having failed so abysmally and being so unpopular, simply being “the other guy” may be a perfectly viable strategy, this time. But what about the long game? It’s not that we on the right don’t have a plan, it’s that we don’t have a narrative.

I am not saying we should stop arguing with the left, pointing out their failures, or exposing the utterly fatal flaws in their policies and issues. There will always be a place for debate, and it remains important, but I think at this point it’s clear this is not enough. We need a counter-narrative, a story, about why we are right, and more importantly, why they are wrong. And we need it now.


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To: Heartlander

The issue is never the issue, the real issue is the revolution.


21 posted on 09/17/2014 10:38:21 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Heartlander

22 posted on 09/17/2014 10:42:41 AM PDT by Old Sarge (TINVOWOOT: There Is No Voting Our Way Out Of This)
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To: Heartlander

Libs don’t understand logic and they always think they win the argument no matter how illogical they are.

Had a run in with one yesterday after a mutual friend posted a Robert Reich quote on Facebook basically blasting CEO pay. I pointed out that Reich made about $250k in 2013 as a professor … teaching one class ... in an effort to show Reich’s hypocrisy.

He responded with some rambling about how much a cafeteria manager makes … not sure what that has to do with the conversation. Then he said something about conservatives making a big deal out of how much a person makes. Wait … what?

I simply wished him “good day” and left the conversation.


23 posted on 09/17/2014 10:48:31 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: Paine in the Neck

“When I say whoa, I mean whoa!!!”


24 posted on 09/17/2014 10:59:34 AM PDT by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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To: STYRO

ping


25 posted on 09/17/2014 11:11:38 AM PDT by STYRO (War sucks. Living in slavery sucks even worse.)
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To: gspurlock

Those terms are too conceptional and don’t offer anything concrete. We should have a narrative where personal responsibility saves people’s lives and makes them prosperous and healthy, etc.


26 posted on 09/17/2014 11:22:17 AM PDT by expat2
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To: Heartlander

Bump


27 posted on 09/17/2014 2:39:15 PM PDT by lowbridge
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