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Actress Daniele Watts handcuffed for failing to show ID to police
Hot Air.com ^ | September 14, 2014 | JAZZ SHAW

Posted on 09/14/2014 3:34:06 PM PDT by Kaslin

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To: greene66

She does not look like a ho, she was not acting like a ho. Sometimes I like the ACLU. As in when government officials get their backsides handed to them for violating a person’s constitutional rights. You know one that is not just a penumbra.


141 posted on 09/14/2014 9:34:57 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: mrsmith

Ah! Thanks. Still, I don’t think that’s a legitimate Probable Cause.


142 posted on 09/14/2014 9:35:46 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: greene66

She does not look like a ho, she was not acting like a ho. Sometimes I like the ACLU. As in when government officials get their backsides handed to them for violating a person’s constitutional rights. You know one that is not just a penumbra.


143 posted on 09/14/2014 9:37:02 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: lastchance

>>Le Sigh, I know you get it freedumb but others obviously do not.<<

Bunch of straw men, but I will help you.

I wonder if there might be laws that restrict the sale of alcohol to those over a certain age? How could one prove they were old enough to take part in this transaction? Is there some sort of paper or badge or card issued by some authority that can be offered upon request to prove one is legally entitled to that brewski? Let me think.<<

Straw Man #1: Irrelevant. Purchasing alcohol is an act that REQUIRES identification. Kissing in public does not.

>>Is there a law that forbids one from being in a vehicle not in motion and kissing in that vehicle in such a matter that does not violate any statute or ordinance? Can’t find one. <<

Strawman #2: Any person operating a motor vehicle must be in full control of that vehicle at all times (you can check your local ordinance to determine I am 100% correct)

>>Would one have to prove they were legally entitled to engage in such an activity? Both people are obviously past the age of consent, so again no. Would one have to produce an officially issued document that verified one was not breaking the law? Well no, cause no law was being broken. See the difference.<<

Strawman #3: Yes, you must possess a valid operator’s licence to be in a moving motor vehicle (motorized or not). Yes, you are breaking the law.

>>Sheesh.<<

Yes, your gross ignorance is: sheesh.

Kissing (passionately or not) is not purchasing alcohol nor operating a motor vehicle. Except in your “free republic” where since the former 2 require an ID, the latter must also (unless your arguments can be led to any other possible conclusion).

Next time you kiss in public, be ready to show your papers.


144 posted on 09/14/2014 9:39:43 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (AGW "Scientific method:" Draw your lines first, then plot your points)
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To: freedumb2003

I’m pretty sure that the law does not allow a BS complaint to be the jump off point for probable cause. Think how easy that assumption would make it for rights to be violated and for legal bullying to be the norm.


145 posted on 09/14/2014 9:40:50 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: lastchance

>>She does not look like a ho, she was not acting like a ho. Sometimes I like the ACLU. As in when government officials get their backsides handed to them for violating a person’s constitutional rights. You know one that is not just a penumbra.<<

By Encino standards, she was dressed like a NUN!

She was reported as a ho because in Encino that is most of the Black women who are seen (especially with white guys).

She doesn’t lose her Constitutional Rights for someone else’s prejudice.


146 posted on 09/14/2014 9:43:16 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (AGW "Scientific method:" Draw your lines first, then plot your points)
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To: lastchance; mrs smith

>>I’m pretty sure that the law does not allow a BS complaint to be the jump off point for probable cause. Think how easy that assumption would make it for rights to be violated and for legal bullying to be the norm.<<

According to Mrs Smith (and many others here at once was a “free” “republic”), it does.

Just keep your papers handy so you can relinquish all your rights if you look at a cop wrong and give him/her “probable cause.”


147 posted on 09/14/2014 9:45:35 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (AGW "Scientific method:" Draw your lines first, then plot your points)
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To: freedumb2003

Freedumb,

I totally am in agreement with you. I was trying to show how absurd it was to compare buying alcohol with just going about one’s business while not engaging in suspicious behavior or a criminal act.


148 posted on 09/14/2014 9:45:44 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: freedumb2003

PS.

Did you notice I specified the vehicle was not in motion? I think you missed that.

Again I am total agreement with you and I think you misunderstood my post.


149 posted on 09/14/2014 9:48:02 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: lastchance

I think I just hit you with friendly fire (and you, me).

I think we are on the same side of this and we are both tired.

I reread this and saw I read some things into your response that weren’t there.

This lady had no need to show her ID to the cop — if you agree then we agree.


150 posted on 09/14/2014 9:48:34 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (AGW "Scientific method:" Draw your lines first, then plot your points)
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To: lastchance

I blew it totally.


151 posted on 09/14/2014 9:48:50 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (AGW "Scientific method:" Draw your lines first, then plot your points)
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To: lastchance

*doh*


152 posted on 09/14/2014 9:49:21 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (AGW "Scientific method:" Draw your lines first, then plot your points)
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To: lastchance

I should have started my apologies with *doh*


153 posted on 09/14/2014 9:50:30 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (AGW "Scientific method:" Draw your lines first, then plot your points)
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To: freedumb2003

I totally agree. I hate, hate the attitude that “If you did nothing wrong you shouldn’t mind doing whatever the police tell you to do.” I also hate the attitude of “Well if you weren’t doing anything wrong why did the police bother you?”

The so called justice system is full of sharks. Being blase’ about your rights is like diving in the water with handfuls of chum. I prefer to say safe on the boat.


154 posted on 09/14/2014 9:55:05 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: freedumb2003

NO apology needed. It is late and I know I am going cross eyed.


155 posted on 09/14/2014 9:56:20 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: lastchance

>>Being blase’ about your rights is like diving in the water with handfuls of chum. I prefer to say safe on the boat.<<

That is pretty good tagline material.

It just angers me that so many just give away their rights so cheaply.

The moment of truth for all of us is when we refuse to allow cops on a traffic stop to search our vehicle.

Thank God we have recording cell phones we can use — and roday you must!


156 posted on 09/14/2014 9:57:46 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (AGW "Scientific method:" Draw your lines first, then plot your points)
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To: Kaslin

If it were our wife(s)

Any Freeper would be furious.

The fact it was a black libtard doesn’t change that


157 posted on 09/14/2014 10:06:43 PM PDT by wardaddy (Ferguson MO...but i thought blacks went north to escape the racism of mean ol southerners)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

You’re right

Be honest

What percentage of folks here would you really want to know

Or have on your jury if wrongly accused

You know how it is here....if your sincere....you drift towards other sincere folks of similar culture and views....and you show respect to those

There are a lot of folks come here just to be nasty....and they freeload


158 posted on 09/14/2014 10:12:58 PM PDT by wardaddy (Ferguson MO...but i thought blacks went north to escape the racism of mean ol southerners)
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To: Navy Patriot

Sorry it was my use of the term “on to a loser” that caused the confusion, I see, it’s a British term meaning on a hiding to nothing.

Trying to convince cop-worshippers that the freedoms enshrined in the United States Constitution apply to everyone or eventually they apply to no one is such a hopeless cause in my experience.

One does not have to like Ms Watts or her choice of clothes (though frankly I have no idea what’s wrong with them) to accept that she is as entitled to 4th Amendment protection as a died-in-the-wool conservative white guy in a Brooks bros suit. If she loses her constitutional rights, then very soon everyone loses them.

Sorry for the initial confusion.


159 posted on 09/15/2014 4:06:11 AM PDT by PotatoHeadMick
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To: samtheman

Thank you


160 posted on 09/15/2014 5:55:57 AM PDT by MileHi
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