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Technical Hiring Managers - resume advice

Posted on 08/30/2014 10:33:11 AM PDT by chrisser

Hoping to get some advice from FReepers who are hiring managers for tech positions - specifically system/network admins.

I've been in the field for almost 25 years. Been consistently employed with a consistently rising salary. Now mid 40s and currently employed.

But I would like to relocate to another city where we own property. I don't know anyone there other than our neighbors who are either retired, farmers, or both.

The area I'm looking at is Parkersburg WV. Not exactly a mecca of tech positions, but a few pop up occasionally on the job boards. I've been sending out resumes for about 3 years and haven't received a single response. There are two positions currently open - one's been open for almost a year and the other for more than a month. I've sent resumes to both (one to the latter, and resubmitted ever two months on the former's online portal). Not a peep. The latter is a small bank and I actually have banking experience. From their description, I'm a near perfect fit. Still nothing.

I send out a pretty detailed resume because these are technical positions. They run 3-4 pages because I've been at my current employer over a decade and, frankly, I've done a lot in a lot of different areas. Job descriptions these days are pretty vague so I feel I have to throw out as many different skills and areas of expertise as I can in order to catch the HR screeners with the right keywords.

Wondering if maybe I should condense my resume into a single page or maybe two. Or looking for any other advice on writing a resume to get through to an interview. What I'm doing now obviously isn't working.

BTW, after these last two jobs didn't even get me a nibble, I've started using the address of our local property rather than my current local address out of state. Even though I'm ready, willing and able to relocate at my expense, and I've put that on resumes and cover letters, I'm wondering if the non-local address is getting my resumes tossed. Would a potential employer consider that to be dishonest? It is a valid address for property I own and it is where I would live if they gave me the job, but it's not where I'm living now.

Any other advice more than welcome...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: employment; headhunters; resumes; techmanagers
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To: JRandomFreeper

You are probably right...


21 posted on 08/30/2014 11:09:15 AM PDT by chrisser (When do we get to tell the Middle East to stop clinging to their guns and religion?)
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To: gdzla
That's fairly radical.

/johnny

22 posted on 08/30/2014 11:10:27 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: chrisser
Make it one page. Be as concise as possible and concentrate on the experience directly related to the job you are responding to. You can make it functional rather than only chronological. Provide years of experience gor each area.

It is not dishonest to use the address where you will be living. I don't even think you need to put an address on the resume. Your phone number and email address are fine. Getting responses to advertised jobs is a needle in a haystack. My recommendation would be to move there and take a contract position that might become permanent.

Good luck to you.

Resume example:

Experience

Blah blah: 5 years

Yadda yadda: 8 years

Hoo hoo: 3 years

Employers

2010-present: Company 1

2008-2010: Company 2

2000-2008: Company 3.

Education

B.S. University of Something

Certifications:

Network blah blah

Security yadda

23 posted on 08/30/2014 11:10:35 AM PDT by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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To: chrisser

Stop using things on resume that reveal age...including college grad.

And do what is possible .... go to these companies you are interested in. You need to meet up with those already working there to learn who is really who....oftentimes meeting with a Dept. Manager in the area of your interest, rather than putting resume’s out there to HR., is far more productive.

Do lots of homework on company and dept head leadership first.


24 posted on 08/30/2014 11:11:17 AM PDT by caww
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To: chrisser

Make sure you complete work history but don’t spend a lot of time in your resume on those outside the realm of the company in which you are applying. Give lots of info that are relevant to the position.


25 posted on 08/30/2014 11:11:47 AM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: KC Burke

Good advice...all my jobs have mostly come from going to the company and being prepared for an interview if it presents itself...it usually does.


26 posted on 08/30/2014 11:13:11 AM PDT by caww
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To: chrisser
Times have changed. One page resumes don't cut it. Today's HR departments are slaves to "Application Tracking Systems".

When you upload a resume to an employers job board, the ATS parses the text looking for keywords and job description matches. If the "score" isn't high enough your resume will never make it to the hiring manager or department head.

I'm a 58 year old Network/Systems/Security Admin that recently had to go through all this after 15 years at one company. I finally got hired after 5 months out of work. Here's some advice:

-Tailor your resume to each employers' job description. Use the exact same descriptions for skills they require.

-Don't upload your resume in PDF format. I'm told that ATS's don't like that format. Use Rich Text Format instead.

-Network with people. Get on LinkedIn and upload your resume. Search for others in your field in the city you want to be in and contact them. This is a biggie. I made some good contacts.

-Join some professional association chapters in the region you want to go to.

Good luck!

27 posted on 08/30/2014 11:14:03 AM PDT by FReepaholic (Stupidity is not a crime, so you're free to go.)
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To: chrisser

My guess is its either the salary or too much experience. They may be thinking you wouldn’t stay long.


28 posted on 08/30/2014 11:14:53 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: chrisser

You probably have more experience then the people doing the hiring. They may also be worried you would take their job.


29 posted on 08/30/2014 11:15:39 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: chrisser

I should also mentioned that I’ve put my resume into the web sites of all the standard staffing firms - Mancan, Kelly, Manpower, etc. One of them did have a direct hire job I was looking into awhile back.

I have several local recruiters who call me on a regular basis, but none of them cover the WV areas and neither do their companies. I have yet to find an actual recruiter in the Parkersburg area to work with, although they’ve never gotten me a job in the past.


30 posted on 08/30/2014 11:18:06 AM PDT by chrisser (When do we get to tell the Middle East to stop clinging to their guns and religion?)
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To: chrisser

A lot of tech job postings that go unfilled are for show to justify an H-1B hire.


31 posted on 08/30/2014 11:18:37 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Depends on what you are doing, if you are doing systems admin, no 30 year olds need to apply as they don’t have the years of experience people want. Lots of greybeards in Window/Unix admin and security, not to mention Government jobs that need a clearance.


32 posted on 08/30/2014 11:20:11 AM PDT by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: chrisser

I am a little south of you, but Dice.com is pretty good for tech jobs in this area.


33 posted on 08/30/2014 11:22:52 AM PDT by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: driftdiver
You probably have more experience then the people doing the hiring. They may also be worried you would take their job.

That thought has occurred to me. It's the one thing that my age has somewhat tempered. I'm not interested in climbing positions anymore just for the sake of moving. I've held the same job for 15 years and I'm content to do the same thing at the next job. I'd of course take on more responsibility if a company wanted me to, but I'm past the point of gunning for a promotion just because I can.
34 posted on 08/30/2014 11:22:58 AM PDT by chrisser (When do we get to tell the Middle East to stop clinging to their guns and religion?)
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To: ClayinVA

Treasury has an office in Parkersburg. I’ve applied to a few jobs there. They have this odd tendency to post jobs I’m qualified for, and then list a PhD as a requirement. If I had a PhD, I wouldn’t be taking a sys admin job at a government office in WV...


35 posted on 08/30/2014 11:26:32 AM PDT by chrisser (When do we get to tell the Middle East to stop clinging to their guns and religion?)
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To: chrisser
Not just tech jobs, but quite a few online ads are bogus. Also some are posted without any intention of hiring. Their just building a file base in case they need someone.

Also, many job boards are recycling older ads in order to look healthy.

I was laid off two weeks before Christmas. I have sent out over 500 resumes and job applications. I had very few responses other than auto bots, "Thank you for your interest in the position, but we have decided to move in a different direction."

Most don't reply at all.

When I could, I would call the HR dept and inquire. Quite a few were surprised that there was an employment ad running.

I'm in sales. I can sell an empty book of matches to an arsonist. I'm that good.

I finally found a terrific sales job on of all places, Craigslist. No resume. No application. Just a phone call for a face to face. NO HR. Just the owner. Interview lasted all of ten minutes.

I start Tuesday.

36 posted on 08/30/2014 11:26:46 AM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

In a way, it’s Logan’s Run come to life.


That’s a great summary line. Brutal, but rings true.


37 posted on 08/30/2014 11:26:56 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: Focault's Pendulum

Congratulations and good luck on the new job!

I hadn’t considered Craigslist. (Opens another browser window...)


38 posted on 08/30/2014 11:28:20 AM PDT by chrisser (When do we get to tell the Middle East to stop clinging to their guns and religion?)
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To: FReepaholic

Perfect advice. If you don’t have the keywords the machine is looking for, it will never make it to a human.


39 posted on 08/30/2014 11:29:03 AM PDT by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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To: chrisser

We do business with people we like and creative initiative is sometimes rewarded.

You are going to work with humans, solving human problems.

You might fix a machine but, humans rely on them the be productive.

you can mention some version of my posts as to why you are contacting them directly.


40 posted on 08/30/2014 11:29:23 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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