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Attorney and Cop Scuffle after Traffic Stop (video)
YouTube.com ^ | 6-29-2014 | YouTube.com

Posted on 08/26/2014 8:41:13 AM PDT by servo1969

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To: IYAS9YAS

The cop was just trying to fulfill his quota with a meaningless violation in Vermont.

Do tinted windows really create a vision problem? It is extremely doubtful as most states allow tinted windows except for totally dark ones.

Like Idaho’s problem with only one plate ... no one in government is using common sense.


21 posted on 08/26/2014 9:54:05 AM PDT by rollin
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To: DariusBane

Well of course you have a point, but it is beside the point of this little altercation, here, and whose side we are on.

The cop didn’t make the law that causes him to have to enforce it.

On the other hand, attorneys and city councils had a lot to do with bringing in the law that resulted in this stop, which basically protects cops and others (like witnesses) who are prevented from seeing danger, who can not see occupants in dark glass cars, or their guns, or any abuse taking place, etc., etc.

Yes, a Godless society brings a myriad of laws and over regulation to rule a Godless society. Stands to reason doesn’t it?


22 posted on 08/26/2014 9:54:52 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

“This is like an officer in Idaho pulling someone over driving a car from New Mexico. In Idaho, two license plates are required, by law, one on the front of the vehicle, one on the back. “

It is NOT against the law in Idaho to drive without a front license plate.


23 posted on 08/26/2014 9:55:13 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: servo1969
Every single time, approx 3-5 times in the last 20 years, all over the country, everytime, they handed back the Rx note and my docs business card and they said, "have a nice day". Be nice to cops, follow the law, and you'll be on your way shortly. If you don't like the law, or the cop: FOR GOODNESS SAKE, DONT ARGUE ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD! Save that arguement for the courtroom, your legislature, or your attorney's office!
24 posted on 08/26/2014 9:56:40 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: DariusBane
Formerly our lack of laws was the problem. Now the avalanche of laws is the problem.

Olim passi sumus a scelere. Leges autem quae patimur.

"Formerly we suffered from crime. Now we suffer from laws". -Cicero, circa 50AD.

25 posted on 08/26/2014 10:00:29 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: DCBryan1

I was paraphrasing him. But I thought the quote was from Tacitus.


26 posted on 08/26/2014 10:08:22 AM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deco et Vives)
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To: rlmorel

I agree with everything you said.

BUT, our society pecks, nudges, pokes, prods, crosses boundaries in the name of THE LAW. Then we act surprised when people snap.


27 posted on 08/26/2014 10:10:56 AM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deco et Vives)
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To: DariusBane
Cicero.....

YOU ARE RIGHT! Ding ding! Publius Tacitus in Annals of Rome....gotta get more coffee!

28 posted on 08/26/2014 10:22:58 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: DariusBane

Tacitus also said, “The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws.” .....how appropriate.


29 posted on 08/26/2014 10:23:50 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: proxy_user

Absolutely NOT! It depends on the laws. Tinted windows is one where the transient has to obey the laws of the new state. While useful in Nevada or other hot sunny states, they may be illegal to some degree of tint in Ohio, for example.


30 posted on 08/26/2014 11:02:30 AM PDT by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, was not there!)
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To: TexasGator
It is NOT against the law in Idaho to drive without a front license plate.

It is for Idaho residents driving Idaho-titled/registered vehicles. http://www.legislature.idaho.gov/idstat/Title49/T49CH4SECT49-456.htm

Paragraph 1 states "plates" not plate.

31 posted on 08/26/2014 11:36:20 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: rollin
Do tinted windows really create a vision problem? It is extremely doubtful as most states allow tinted windows except for totally dark ones.

Actually, according to what I could find, only the front driver/passenger windows cannot have tint in VT. The rear side windows and rear window are allowed to be tinted.

32 posted on 08/26/2014 11:38:00 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

Then you retract your previous post where you cite that it is against the law for a NM resident to drive in Idaho without a front license plate? I will refresh your post below:

“This is like an officer in Idaho pulling someone over driving a car from New Mexico. In Idaho, two license plates are required, by law, one on the front of the vehicle, one on the back. New Mexico only requires one (on the back) and only issues one. “


33 posted on 08/26/2014 11:50:05 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

You misunderstood my original post. I said, “This is like”. I didn’t say they did that. What I meant with my post was that cops don’t generally pull you over for things that would be legal in other jurisdictions. One plate, tint, bumper height, tires extending outside the fender (legal some places, but not others), snow tires. They’ll get in-state vehicles for those infractions, but will usually leave out-of-state alone, unless in the case of moving violations.


34 posted on 08/26/2014 11:59:41 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

“You misunderstood my original post. I said, “This is like”. “

I understood perfectly what you wrote. My point is that it is not ‘like’ since one is about in-state registration and the other is about vehicle operation in the state.


35 posted on 08/26/2014 12:25:19 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator
I understood perfectly what you wrote. My point is that it is not ‘like’ since one is about in-state registration and the other is about vehicle operation in the state.

You're right. I didn't catch the "Local attorney" in my first reading of the excerpt, and clicked the video link with the sound off.

VT does allow window tint, which the article improperly states it does not. What it doesn't allow, is window tint on the front side windows. Tint is allowed on the rear side windows and rear windows. The part when the driver's door is opened by the tow truck driver is obscured a bit, but it does appear the windows do have somewhat of a tint, but they don't appear to be as dark as the rear window, but can't tell if that's due to the overcast and low-light situation, or actual tint.

Vermont's inspection guide http://dmv.vermont.gov/sites/dmv/files/pdf/DMV-VN112-Vehicle_Inspection_Manual.pdf

36 posted on 08/26/2014 12:50:18 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

Just went back to the whole video and also listened closer.

From the appearance of the window when the truck driver got in, the left front window was definitely tinted.

The cop called the tow truck. I am not sure if the attorney had agreed on the one called.

When the attorney found out his insurance wouldn’t pay for it he objected and tried to disconnect the tow cable.

The tow truck driver then attempted to ‘confiscate’ the car for non-payment!


37 posted on 08/26/2014 1:32:44 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator
The cop called the tow truck. I am not sure if the attorney had agreed on the one called.

Listening with the audio made a whole lot more sense. Couldn't do it earlier. Why didn't the attorney call his own tow truck via his insurance? He could have told the cop he'd call his own. I would have. I have AAA, and it would have been free.

38 posted on 08/26/2014 2:22:13 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Whuz up with with the suit shorts? LOL!


39 posted on 08/26/2014 4:01:54 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: boycott

I am not sure but most states require you, if you have a carry permit, to notify the police if you have a gun in the car. The lawyer should know. He should be charged with that too if that’s the case
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Just a couple of them require you declare when first approached. In others, if the Cop asks you are required.

However if you are ‘foolish’ enough to have it on you in NY/NJ and most of that part of the country, it is best they ‘find’ it rather than you tell them - the penalty is no ‘worse’.

If I am in a real ‘gun friendly state’ I may tell him/her but it really depends on the situation. I think I would declare in my own state, but not really required to - again, dependent on the circumstance.


40 posted on 08/26/2014 4:31:22 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)a GUN is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one-probably never need one again.)
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