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To: awelliott

Good points.

Rose played at a time before the million dollar contract...Long before...In fact, he was on the cover of SI
when he signed his contract making him the first 6 figure singles hitter.

When Rose made the admission in 2004, he was under the impression that baseball would make an accommodation with him that would allow him to rejoin baseball in some capacity. As we all know that never happened.

As far as affecting the integrity of the game, there has never been any evidence advanced that even remotely suggests that Rose ever attempted to affect the outcome of a game that he managed in an effort to enhance his betting position.


124 posted on 08/24/2014 12:48:06 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: Delta Dawn

I loved him as a player but have scant respect for him as a human being.

As far as affecting the integrity of the game, there has never been any evidence advanced that even remotely suggests that Rose ever attempted to affect the outcome of a game that he managed in an effort to enhance his betting position.

Just one man’s opinion, but the baseball hall of fame is a farce. Joe Torre and Tony Larussa were just admitted to the HOF. Nary a word was said that both men managed teams with players who used PEDs extensively, ie, Mcwire,Canseco, A-Rod, Clemons etc. It is hard to believe to think that these guys didn’t know what was going on and did nothing to stop it.

So Rose never bet as a player just as a manager. Letting guys do steroids affects the game too and I agree these managers who are in the HOF affected the game and only the players got punished.

I laugh at this subject because in football they have taken the position that OJ should not be kicked out of the FHOF.

Put Pete in as a player and not as a manager that is the answer.


125 posted on 08/24/2014 1:43:12 PM PDT by Zenjitsuman (New Boss Nancy Pelosi)
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To: Delta Dawn; kenmcg; okie01
Let's not forget that the Dowd Report investigation was in progress when Rose agreed to the lifetime band if John Dowd would discontinue his investigation.

What was Pete afraid of Dowd discovering?

In 2002, thirteen years after the lifetime ban, when Rose was still denying that he bet on baseball, John Dowd was interviewed by the New York Post.

Dowd - and this is the guy who knows the evidence better than anyone else - said he thought it was "probably right" that Rose not only bet on Reds games but that he bet against the Reds during the mid-to-late-1980s when Rose managed Cincinnati.

To quote ESPN about the Dowd interview in 2002:

Dowd said Thursday he was asked by the Post whether he came across any evidence that Rose gambled against his team. Dowd said he told the paper there was some, but it was inconclusive.

"I was never able to tie it down,'' Dowd said. "It was unreliable, and that's why I didn't include it in the report. I probably shouldn't have said it. I was not trying to start something here.''

Dowd also told the Post that Rose did not bet on the Reds whenever two pitchers, including Mario Soto, started, which "sent a message through the gambling community that the Reds can't win" on those days.

Dowd discontinued his investigation when Rose agreed to the lifetime ban. Repeat: the investigation that was turning up evidence that Rose bet against the Reds was terminated when Rose agreed to the lifetime ban.

131 posted on 08/25/2014 8:05:00 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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