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Pete Rose: 'I've Been Led to Believe That America Is a Forgiving Country'
Breitbart Sports ^ | August 21, 2014 | William Bigelow

Posted on 08/21/2014 10:40:11 AM PDT by EveningStar

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To: EveningStar

they forgave mike vicks, tiger woods, oj, so why not Pete Rose?

Yea I know why he’s white.


41 posted on 08/21/2014 12:06:48 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: EveningStar

I did not know that.

I respect Pete Roe and his baseball accomplishments.

Not a fan of him, personally. He doesn’t seem like someone I would like.

In the big scheme of things, his gambling pales to the crap that the Steroid boys did.


42 posted on 08/21/2014 12:08:07 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Ebola: Death is a lagging indicator.)
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To: EveningStar
I've been led to believe...

What, exactly, does that mean?

43 posted on 08/21/2014 12:15:10 PM PDT by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the Republican Party does not want you.)
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To: Vermont Lt

I’ve always considered him a jerk but I respect his talents.


44 posted on 08/21/2014 12:20:42 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar
I will say this. I used to love the 1970s Phillies and watch Pete Rose play. After the game in the locker room if a reporter asked a stupid question he would let the reporter know! Rose would get walked and run to first base.
45 posted on 08/21/2014 12:33:09 PM PDT by 4yearlurker (Some people say that experts agree!!)
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To: EveningStar

You were fun to watch, Charlie Hustle, back in the day
but that was way back in the day.


46 posted on 08/21/2014 12:41:45 PM PDT by Brother Cracker ( Mossberg 500 helps me deal with being old and cranky)
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To: freedomson
I say this as a long time fan, I forgive you Pete but, I don't want you in the Hall of Fame.

You voiced my sentiments exactly. Thank you.

It isn't a matter of forgiveness or punishment. The Hall of Fame should be for the Best of the Best. He threw that away with both hands.

47 posted on 08/21/2014 12:51:37 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens ~ J.R.R. Tolkien)
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To: OftheOhio

Exactly! I’ve sure Gene Garber can attest to what a scam lil Hustle Boy is.


48 posted on 08/21/2014 12:56:48 PM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Freestate316

“But Pete Rose should not be in the Hall of Fame.”

I’d put him in the Hall, with an asterisk, and a biography that emphasizes what he did wrong. There’s a really important message there that every young kid visiting the Hall should learn about. He did wrong, and to be honest, there are things about him that really irritate me, but I highly doubt he would or did use performance enhancing drugs, and there are likely plenty of modern players in the Hall who did. That in no way justifies what he did, but IMHO this should at least be considered.


49 posted on 08/21/2014 1:00:52 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Jewbacca
In baseball, he committed the crime.

Rule 21 was posted in every clubhouse and every dugout Pete every played in during his minor and major league career, and his career as a manager.

Rose knew the penalty for violating Rule 21(d). Everyone on the field knew, and the vast majority of fans.

"Any player, umpire, or club or league official or employee, who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has a duty to perform shall be declared permanently ineligible."

Pete, as a student of the game, knew exactly who Shoeless Joe Jackson was. People want Charlie Hustle in the HOF? Fine. Enshrine Shoeless Joe and make Pete wait another 94 years.

50 posted on 08/21/2014 1:25:04 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (A man flattened by an opponent can get up again. A man flattened by conformity stays down for good.)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
I highly doubt he would or did use performance enhancing drugs

Rose has admitted repeatedly that he took 'greenies' throughout his baseball career. Amphetamines are a performance enhancing drug.

51 posted on 08/21/2014 1:27:40 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (A man flattened by an opponent can get up again. A man flattened by conformity stays down for good.)
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To: shove_it

Get a clue yourself. I don’t care if he was a virtual superman. I spent 4 years in the Marines during his time. I personally met two “Reds” in my life and both were honorable men. I lived about 4 miles from where some of his “dealings” went down. I also remember fighting for Cincinnatian’s rights not to be made instant criminals (gun control) while the papers ran continuous coverage about him.


52 posted on 08/21/2014 1:31:07 PM PDT by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could kata - Romeo company)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

The x ray of the corked bat comes to mind. I wonder how long he had been playing with these.


53 posted on 08/21/2014 1:54:10 PM PDT by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could kata - Romeo company)
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To: Scoutmaster
“Rose has admitted repeatedly that he took ‘greenies’ throughout his baseball career.”

Didn't know that. It changes the way I feel about letting him in the Hall. Sadly, there are plenty of teenagers and adults taking Adderall and other amphetamines because they think they will give them a cognitive edge.

54 posted on 08/21/2014 3:04:15 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: EveningStar

it’sall’about what pete wants.

i think his ban should stay. it was a lifetime ban.


55 posted on 08/21/2014 5:14:39 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Joe Boucher

i wouildn’t. he lied all the way through everything. tried to be the victim.

i’m sorry but the gambling itself on top of denying it until he couldn’t anymore, makes him even worse and he should not be in the HOF, ever.

no better than clinton denying his sex with lewinsky until he couldn’t anymore.

then they all appeal for forgiveness. what crap.


56 posted on 08/21/2014 5:18:44 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Morgana

b/c they didn’t spend years denying what they did, and denying it in court, once it was discovered.


57 posted on 08/21/2014 5:20:24 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: EveningStar
I agree on all your points, except that I'm ambivalent on whether or not Rose is involved in baseball.

I I personally don't care too much because I don't think he'd be in the position to get in the same mess. I feel it is a worthy compromise...to recognize his play, but continue to punish him for life for his errors by not allowing him to be a part of the game again.

58 posted on 08/21/2014 6:08:23 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: OftheOhio

Also, Reggie Williams stopped the first vote on making criminal of Cincinnatians own. I would defend him with my life. The man has suffered greatly from what I have read, so the life of patriots. Kudos.


59 posted on 08/21/2014 7:07:57 PM PDT by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could kata - Romeo company)
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To: freedomson

We are forgiving——Boston finally forgave Bill Buckner.

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60 posted on 08/21/2014 7:13:44 PM PDT by Mears
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