Neanderthals Died Out 10,000 Years Earlier Than Thought, With Help From Modern Humans

Nationalgeographic.com ^ | 08-20-2014 | Dan Vergano

[elcid1970]

With a side of fava beans & a good Chianti, Neans’ are out of this world!

;^)

[Gen.Blather]

“If humanoids ‘arrived’ in Europe to find Neanderthals ALREADY there, then WHERE did the Neanderthals came from?”

I believe there were at least three African hominid exoduses. But one theory is that all the various groups were evolving toward us. Some of them looked anatomically modern but do not have any mitochondrial DNA present in today’s humans, meaning they evolved to look like us, which was apparently inherent in the DNA, but died out. This supports the idea that Neanderthals were a further evolved branch of earlier hominids.

There were also several genetic lineages in the new world including one that looked anatomically Caucasian. It and the others were wiped out (or died out) by or coincident with the arrival of the later group that we now call Indians. Groups of humans have been going extinct for millions of years.

In the five to ten thousand year timeframe you can see how the flood of illegals at our southern border may drive Caucasian Americans to extinction.

[Jonty30]

One of the prevailing theories is that the greater muscle mass required more calories and their lifestyle couldn’t compensate.

[Hugin]

The new finding relies on 196 samples of animal bones, shells, and charcoal taken from 40 Neanderthal cave sites reaching from Gibraltar to the Caucasus. Largely from prey species such as deer, bison, and mammoth, the bones all bear cut marks from a type of stone blade that Neanderthals used.

That seems a pretty weak basis to make such a claim. How do they know the Neanderthals didn't upgrade their blades by copying what modern humans used?

[dontreadthis]

true, but there was also Ishmael

[Red Badger]

He married Hittite women................

[Verginius Rufus]

According to the book The Neanderthals by Friedemann Schrenk and Stephanie Mueller (2005, English trans. 2009), there are various pre-Neanderthal humans in Europe.

Earliest are "Early Homo erectus" dating between 1.8 million and 800,000 years ago, found in Spain, Italy, and Georgia.

Then "European Homo erectus (Homo heidelbergensis)" (800,000 to 350,000 years ago), fossil sites found in Spain, Germany, France, England, and Greece.

Then "Ante-Neanderthals (Homo steinheimensis) in Europe" (c. 350,000 to 180,000 before present), found in Germany, England, Hungary, Spain, and Wales.

Then "Early Neanderthals in Europe" (c. 180,000 to 90,000 before present), found at sites in Germany, Croatia, Italy, and Gibraltar.

Finally "Classic Neanderthals in Europe and the Near East (Homo neanderthalensis) (c. 90,000 to 27,000 before present), found at sites in Germany, France, Belgium, Italy, Kurdistan, Israel, Uzbekistan, Hungary, and Syria.

[camle]

smallpox?

[Red Badger]

How do they know the Neanderthals didn't upgrade their blades by copying what modern humans used?

They were ancestors of Bill Gates?.....................

[Fiji Hill]

The Neanderthal man was first discovered in Neanderthal (Neander Valley) near Düsseldorf, Germany, in 1856. This is where Joachim Neander, a seventeenth-century school principal and hymn writer liked to hang out, hold gatherings, and conduct religious services. The valley was eventually named for him. Shortly before his death from tuberculosis in 1680, he wrote the words to this famous hymn:

Lobe den Herren, den mächtigen König (Praise to the Lord, the Almighty)

[Red Badger]

Joachim?...................strange name for a German....................

[Red Badger]

From Wiki:

Joachim Neander was born in Bremen, the son of a Latin teacher. His grandfather, a musician, had changed the family name from the original Neumann (’New man’ in English) to the Greek form Neander following the fashion of the time.

So, these Neanderthals are really New Men?..................

[Eric in the Ozarks]

I don’t believe it.
Our high school football coach qualified as a neanderthal.
He certainly had the hair...

[A CA Guy]

Neanderthals all got welfare and died off lying around in their section 8 apartments and also getting killed in senseless apartments no doubt.

[Red Badger]

I was in the Marines with a guy who had so much body hair he looked like he was wearing a monkey suit....................

[MrB]

In the future, WASPs invent time travel and go back and wipe out the Neanderthals because WASPs are inherently that racist.

[MortMan]

I didn’t know the Kevorkian family was that old...

[Hugin]

LOL. HandAxe 8 will be much more user friendly and hip than HandAxe 7.

[Hugin]

[Red Badger]

Neanderthal: I’ll still use HandAxe 3.0. It’s too hard to learn all that new stuff....................