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Ebola Surveillance Thread
Free Republic Threads ^ | August 10, 2014 | Legion

Posted on 08/10/2014 12:46:23 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe

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To: Smokin' Joe
NYC man cleared after being hospitalized for symptoms of Ebola

Hopefully NOT false negatives...

3,501 posted on 10/09/2014 2:03:43 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Risk of Contracting Ebola a Small Price To Pay For Enriching America With Diversity (satire)

Satire alert!

3,502 posted on 10/09/2014 2:06:49 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Thud
I won't comment on most of your post, because it says pretty much what I would have commented anyway. But there are a couple of statements that need further comment.

I.e., everyone in America can be vaccinated against Ebola by the end of May 2015. Only the political will to do so is lacking.

This would be impractical, expensive, and unnecessary. If there is naturally Ebola or similar virus in the US, we have so little contact with its animal reservoir that we have never discovered it. Recently, such a virus was discovered in Spain--its pretty remarkable that it was never seen before, considering that Spain has been populated for millenia.

The ideal situation for Ebola would be that a vaccine would be approved (very difficult, considering that it can never be tested in the normal clinical trial protocols) and that it would be kept on reserve so that when an Ebola case happens, every possible contact can be vaccinated so the disease has no chance to spread. Vaccinating potential contacts is a tactic that has worked to contain outbreaks of other diseases, and would work with Ebola.

In the US and much of the world, we have a zoonotic disease that is 100% fatal if not treated before symptoms appear. Yet we only vaccinated people who are at occupational risk of getting it, such as veterinarians. Once in a while, someone gets exposed without knowing it, and dies. Contacts of that person are vaccinated and given serum. Although fairly contagious, highly lethal, and endemic to wild animals (we have had several cases this year in my area), the fact that a rabies vaccine exists is enough to prevent huge outbreaks.

"ZMapp, developed by San Diego-based biotech Mapp Biopharmaceutical, is a biological drug. The antibodies that spark the immune system are produced in tobacco plants, then extracted from the plant to make the drug."

This is a time-consuming process, like manufacture of biological drugs always is. It also takes a lot of plants to make a small amount of drug. Plus, despite the publicity, we still do not know if ZMapp was really effective. Two of seven patients who received it died; statistically, this is not a significant result. Statistically, given the 50-60% fatality rate in this outbreak, we would have expected 3 or 4 of those patients to die. If you just select groups of seven Ebola patients at random, some groups will have 2 survivors, some will have none, some will have seven--just the laws of statistics working, here. There is simply no way we can know it worked without testing it on a significant number of patients. Plus, there is an ethical issue, in assigning some patients to receive placebo and others to receive the drug for testing purposes.

3,503 posted on 10/09/2014 3:35:43 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: PA Engineer

Thank you for the ping. I am bookmarking this to watch later.


3,504 posted on 10/09/2014 5:46:37 AM PDT by Shelayne
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To: Whenifhow; freespirit2012

Thank you for the reports.

Hopefully all these deputies ate bad burritos from the same place. Otherwise...


3,505 posted on 10/09/2014 5:50:21 AM PDT by Shelayne
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To: Smokin' Joe

Ebola Panic Inches Closer to Hollywood: Possible Patient Rushed to LA Hospital

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3213110/posts


3,506 posted on 10/09/2014 6:12:48 AM PDT by MulberryDraw (Repeal it.)
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To: MulberryDraw

CDC’s Ebola Advice to Airline Crews: Watch for Passengers ‘Using Restroom Many Times’

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3213116/posts?page=1


3,507 posted on 10/09/2014 6:18:56 AM PDT by MulberryDraw (Repeal it.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
'No one has died of Ebola in the U.S. before': Outraged family eyes lawsuit... (YGBSM moment. Award them the medical bill, and the bills for anyone else who caught it from the guy.)
3,508 posted on 10/09/2014 6:56:41 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Liberian detainee isolated at Kenosha Co. Jail, officials “made calls to the CDC"
3,509 posted on 10/09/2014 6:58:10 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Hospital bill for deceased Texas Ebola patient nearly $1,000 an hour ($500,000 total)
3,510 posted on 10/09/2014 6:59:22 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
More than a dozen states plan to cancel health care policies not in compliance with ObamaCare

just in time...

3,511 posted on 10/09/2014 7:00:29 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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Duncan Family Plays the Race Card After Ebola Patient Zero Dies
3,512 posted on 10/09/2014 7:02:04 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Dark Wing

Something unusual is going on:

The family members of Duncan who lived with him in the apartment have not presented with ebola symptoms to date despite having close contact with Duncan prior to his hospitalization.

Yet a deputy, who entered the apartment merely to serve papers, becomes symptomatic within 5 days.


3,513 posted on 10/09/2014 7:12:10 AM PDT by RMB
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To: RMB

I dont think the deputy has Ebola. But, the virus presents differently in every case. Thats why incubation takes a range of dates.


3,514 posted on 10/09/2014 7:13:28 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Ebola: Death is a lagging indicator.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Was Ebola Behind the Black Death?

Not likely, unless y. pestis was there with it.

3,515 posted on 10/09/2014 7:32:55 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Staying Ebola Free – Helpful Tips on Avoiding Ebola (Funny Video)
3,516 posted on 10/09/2014 7:35:37 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Ebola-hit Liberia cancels nationwide election
3,517 posted on 10/09/2014 9:33:54 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Just Breaking...

Ebola crisis: Officials say British man suspected of contracting Ebola has died in Macedonia


3,518 posted on 10/09/2014 9:51:14 AM PDT by sunmars
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To: sunmars

People arriving in UK at Gatwick, Heathrow or on Eurostar will face questions & possible medical tests

http://bbc.in/1rjgeOt


3,519 posted on 10/09/2014 9:52:42 AM PDT by sunmars
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To: RMB; Thud; Smokin' Joe; PA Engineer; ElenaM

>>The family members of Duncan who lived with him in the
>>apartment have not presented with ebola symptoms to date
>>despite having close contact with Duncan prior to his >>hospitalization.

It is still too soon to know.

The MSF news site had — it was scrubbed the other day — at least one case study of exhibiting Ebola symptoms taking up to 40 days to appear after the last documented exposure.

>>Yet a deputy, who entered the apartment merely to
>>serve papers, becomes symptomatic within 5 days.

Ebola symptoms exhibited vary based on the viral load and immune systems of those infected.

There are at least three different RNA variants of this Ebola virus in the current outbreak with different suites of clinical symptoms.

What Ebola symptoms you show and when are an uncertain cloud and not a strict and easily identifiable script.

For example the PBS NOVA science show report on Ebola showed hiccups as a symptom, mostly towards the end of a lethal case.

However, I have read reports of Ebola survivors with light symptoms of infextion having hiccups as well.

What we know about Ebola is changing as Ebola adapts to its new host environments and as reports of those changes filter through the various organizations reporting on those adaptations.


3,520 posted on 10/09/2014 12:13:26 PM PDT by Dark Wing
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