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Ebola Surveillance Thread
Free Republic Threads ^ | August 10, 2014 | Legion

Posted on 08/10/2014 12:46:23 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe

I have spent a little time compiling links to threads about the Ebola outbreak in the interest of having all the links in one thread for future reference.

Please add links to new threads and articles of interest as the situation develops.

Thank You all for you participation.


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To: ElenaM

I’ve also used msf.org and just found the same curious thing you did. It is all gone.

I could access the Ebola blogs through Doctors Without Borders. The latest entry is dated today.

http://blogs.msf.org/en/staff/blogs/msf-ebola-blog


3,361 posted on 10/08/2014 6:27:55 AM PDT by Shelayne
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To: Black Agnes

OOps, my bad. Caption says HOng Kong.

Ok, so even the Chinese will be garbing their medicos better than we will.


3,362 posted on 10/08/2014 6:29:31 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

Imagine that! They are covered head-to-toe in PPE. It’s as if they know that Ebola is a Level 4 pathogen or something...

Paging Tom Frieden, et al...


3,363 posted on 10/08/2014 6:32:22 AM PDT by Shelayne
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To: scouter

Thank you for your in-depth. Now to explain why that is every bit as much Obama’s fault:

“It is far more likely that the problem at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital was due to the way they configured the system than to any inherent bug in Epic.”

If it’s not user-friendly, then Obama-care ‘aint ready.

All software used by millions needs to remember “KISS” ...

Keep
It
Simple
Stupid [not directed at you].


3,364 posted on 10/08/2014 6:36:02 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March ("Ebol-ee will collapse the system." Is that what President Ebola is thinking?)
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To: scouter

...her...


3,365 posted on 10/08/2014 6:38:55 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Covenantor

Of course, he doesn’t have a medical need for the body-rubber, but what sane woman [or whatever-gender?] would sleep with the guy tonight?


3,366 posted on 10/08/2014 6:39:29 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March ("Ebol-ee will collapse the system." Is that what President Ebola is thinking?)
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To: Shelayne

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/08/spanish-ebola-nurse-symptoms-quarantine

This is very alarming. This nurse repeatedly warned that she might be infected with Ebola, yet she was told to go to the doctor, where she was sent home with meds for her fever. When she was finally too sick to go to the hospital, an ambulance came for her, but even after warning them, the paramedics wore only gloves and a paper mask and the medicos who attended her were not in full PPE, either.

This is just very, very bad.


3,367 posted on 10/08/2014 6:40:22 AM PDT by Shelayne
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To: Shelayne

Mmmm, nationalized healthcare.


3,368 posted on 10/08/2014 6:48:37 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: livius

C the link in 3367.

Deplorable.

Health ministry owns this one. Too bad they probably can’t be sued.


3,369 posted on 10/08/2014 6:50:02 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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Dr Ben Carson:

Keep Ebola Out of America
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3212704/posts


3,370 posted on 10/08/2014 7:05:00 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March ("Ebol-ee will collapse the system." Is that what President Ebola is thinking?)
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A Brief Review Of History’s 9 Deadliest Plagues
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3212703/posts


3,371 posted on 10/08/2014 7:05:35 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March ("Ebol-ee will collapse the system." Is that what President Ebola is thinking?)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
All software used by millions needs to remember “KISS” ...

EMRs are by their nature complex because the human body is complex and so many complex things can go wrong in the human body. Also, hospitals are extremely complex businesses, with very complex needs for scheduling, registration, insurance, patient care, patient transportation, and on and on and on.... This was so way before Obamacare. You try to keep it simple, but if you keep it too simple it doesn't do much for you.

And as any computer programmer will tell you, with complexity comes bugs. We do our best to prevent them and to minimize their impact if they do happen, but for a good system, the benefits simply outweigh the downsides. And Epic is a good system.

Epic has excellent training available for people like me, who analyze a hospital's business operations and configure the system accordingly. They require all of their customers' implementation staff members to be trained and certified. They also require the customers' implementation staff to develop training programs for the end users, and they provide model curricula the customer adjusts to reflect their hospital's implementation. The quality of that end user training, though, is completely in the hands of the customer, not Epic. So while it may have been a configuration issue, it may also have been a training issue.

Another FReeper commented somewhere that EMRs are a scam. That's a very uninformed opinion. It's like saying Windows or Linux are scams because they are not perfect or because they're complex. What an integrated EMR allows you to do is absolutely remarkable. But if you rely on them too much or try to get them to solve every problem, you'll run into issues like what happened in Texas. Sometimes a Post-It note is the right technology.

For every problem introduced by an EMR, I guarantee you there would be 100 worse problems if we relied solely on paper. More than employing KISS technology, or just as important, is to find the right balance between technology and manual processes.

3,372 posted on 10/08/2014 7:47:15 AM PDT by scouter (As for me and my household... We will serve the LORD.)
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To: Thud

FYI, since I keep confusing the two people and their positions —

o CDC Director Dr. Tom Frieden

o NIAID director Dr. Anthony Fauci

Both have testified before Congress.

Dr. Tom Frieden of the CDC does most of the “Risk communication.”

Both have been caught repeatedly and intentionally blowing squid ink over the risks of disease transmission and the protection required to deal with it.

That is, they have both intentionally and with malice aforethought confused and misdirected when asked direct questions regards the safeguards needed to stop this disease from spreading to America, the status of preparations needed to deal with it when it got here, and the lessons for the future when it gets here again.

That the MSF site got scrubbed implies very bad things given the above.


3,373 posted on 10/08/2014 8:07:04 AM PDT by Dark Wing
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To: Dark Wing

“That the MSF site got scrubbed implies very bad things given the above.”

I missed this. What specifically happened on the MSF site?


3,374 posted on 10/08/2014 8:11:31 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: Smokin' Joe; Thud

Nurse #2 of the Spanish Ebola treatment team for the Medical Missionary Priest has gone down with Ebola.

BHL-2 PPE is proving insufficient to the point of criminal negligence with ill-trained local HCW meeting Ebola for the first time.


Second nurse who treated missionaries admitted with suspected Ebola

http://news.gnom.es/news/second-nurse-who-treated-missionaries-admitted-with-suspected-ebola

ANOTHER nurse who treated the two missionary doctors repatriated from Liberia and Sierra Leone has been admitted to Madrid’s Carlos III hospital with suspected Ebola.

She was found to be suffering from a fever and is undergoing tests to find out whether she has caught the haemorrhagic virus from the two patients who were air-lifted home in August and September.

Along with a Spanish engineer who has just returned from Nigeria, and a third female nurse who has so far tested negative, the latest patient is the fifth person being held in isolation – although only one case has been confirmed.

Teresa Romero, 44, from Alcorcón (Madrid) was rushed to hospital on Monday and tests for Ebola showed up positive.

Her husband, Javier, is in a separate isolation ward under observation.

At least another 50 people who either treated the missionaries or have been in contact with those currently in hospital are undergoing regular temperature checks.

A helpline has been set up by Madrid health authorities – 91 400 00 01 – and an email address, sanidadinforma@salud.madrid.org.


3,375 posted on 10/08/2014 8:14:34 AM PDT by Dark Wing
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To: Dark Wing

Ebola patient Duncan has died...via Fox just now...dies this morning


3,376 posted on 10/08/2014 8:18:03 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww; Thud; Smokin' Joe

Now we know why the Feds at CDC didn’t let his son near Thomas Duncan in the last few days.

If Duncan was exposed on Sept 15th, he died 23 days after exposure.

That being the case, 17 October is the cleared date for people exposed on Sept 24th.

And 30 October is the cleared date for anyone exposed to Duncan w/o sufficient PPE on Sept 30th.


3,377 posted on 10/08/2014 8:28:12 AM PDT by Dark Wing
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To: Smokin' Joe; Thud

Texas Ebola Patient Thomas Eric Duncan Has Died

Oct 8, 2014, 11:21 AM ET
By GILLIAN MOHNEY
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/texas-ebola-patient-thomas-eric-duncan-died/story?id=26045360

The Ebola patient in an isolation unit in a Texas hosptial, Thomas Eric Duncan, has died, officials said today.


3,378 posted on 10/08/2014 8:30:16 AM PDT by Dark Wing
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To: RinaseaofDs

See post 3,322 from ElanaM and a number of following posts regards the MSF news site wipe.


3,379 posted on 10/08/2014 9:14:46 AM PDT by Dark Wing
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To: Dark Wing

Thank you sir.


3,380 posted on 10/08/2014 9:25:18 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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