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Where Did All the Entry-Level Jobs Go? Many Firms Expect New Graduates to Arrive Job-Ready
Wall Street Journal ^ | 08/07/2014 | LAUREN WEBER and MELISSA KORN

Posted on 08/07/2014 6:54:00 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Dilbert San Diego

When employees worked for the same company for decades, it made sense to make an investment in entry-level employees. Now that people stay in jobs only until they find a better one elsewhere, any investment in “career development” only benefits the next employer.

Each individual is now responsible for his own development, whether it be spending $200K on a degree on transgender studies, or taking training to be an electrician (for which there’s a national shortage).


41 posted on 08/07/2014 9:22:18 AM PDT by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Meanwhile the interest on their loans accumulate, delaying their entry into independent adulthood even further.


42 posted on 08/07/2014 9:24:17 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Jonty30

They don’t want to train because they don’t expect to keep anyone more than a few years.


43 posted on 08/07/2014 9:26:25 AM PDT by DManA
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To: SeekAndFind
Ms. Dixon tells of a former student who, within 18 months of joining a Fortune 100 chemical company, was running accounts valued at $35 million. A decade ago, she said, a territory that big would be handled by a 40-something, not a 23-year-old.

So the immediate questions I would have are how well does the 23-year-old know the customer, how well can they help the customer solve their problems, how much customer service can they deliver, and how much are they being paid as compared to the 40-year-old? I suspect the answers are not much, not much, not much, and nowhere near as much. And the answer to question number four is why the 23-year-old has the account and the 40-year-old is sitting at home cruising Monster.com, having been laid off last year.

44 posted on 08/07/2014 9:29:17 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: JimRed

“Paid internships...”

I know several guys with masters in geoscience type stuff that are doing unpaid internships. As has been mentioned, when you have a surplus of workers (many WITH experience), and people staying on older, and a still-wary market in areas, it is harder for a young guy to get a job.


45 posted on 08/07/2014 9:37:20 AM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: AZLiberty
When employees worked for the same company for decades, it made sense to make an investment in entry-level employees. Now that people stay in jobs only until they find a better one elsewhere, any investment in “career development” only benefits the next employer.

When I started my first career-type job, I was ready and willing to work for that company, in that location, for the next 30 years and happily retire. The company nixed that when they shut down that site, sold the property, and let 150 people go.

Two jobs ago I was building a career working for a pharmaceutical manufacturer as an investigator. I would still be working for them in that capacity if I hadn't discovered that I was making about half of the industry standard pay rate for that job.

So I see it this way: If workers have learned not to be loyal to employers, it's because they learned that employers are often not loyal to employees. If you work for a living you'd better be looking out for yourself, because nobody else is going to look out for you.

46 posted on 08/07/2014 9:38:44 AM PDT by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

You’re right; students should be doing this stuff while they are students at university and doing this during the summers instead of messing around partying.


47 posted on 08/07/2014 9:50:20 AM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: DManA

No, it’s not that.

Big business has figured out how to socialize its costs and that is what it is doing. As much as possible, everything that is considered a cost will be, in one form or another, passed onto the taxpayer.


48 posted on 08/07/2014 12:08:17 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: 21twelve

Try to be over 50 and get an interview, let alone a job.


49 posted on 08/07/2014 3:37:27 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: Hulka

“Try to be over 50 and get an interview, let alone a job.”

So our business economy is now limited to those in the “have 5 years of experience” to the “not too old and expensive.” A range of 25 years or so.

My nephew (recent college grad) got on as a paid intern with an old-style firm where the youngest guy was 50-something. He didn’t last long. He may have come across as too much of a “know-it-all college kid”, but I’m more inclined to think the company was just too old school. In spite of the reason for them hiring him being to get some fresh, young ideas.


50 posted on 08/07/2014 4:58:17 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: SeekAndFind
Academia is busy corrupting young minds with socialism and communism and thier own brand of ideology that they come into the world without the necessary skills and a hefty college loan thanks to their resentful anti American anti capitalist professors who laugh all the way to the bank with your money!
51 posted on 08/07/2014 5:37:33 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: dfwgator

She can read now. Somebody, not a government school, taught her to.


52 posted on 08/08/2014 7:55:37 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: CorporateStepsister

If you cut out summer breaks, kids could graduate HS at 8th grade and spend the next four years pursuing college courses, internships or working. You could be graduating college at 18/19 and starting work at 20 with a ton of experience. Our education system is designed to benefit teachers and bureaucrats.


53 posted on 08/08/2014 7:59:46 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: RJS1950

Entry level implies that the employee is ready to go to work and LEARN the job and its requirements, not be proficient from day one.

In practice, entry level is a description of the pay. They still expect veteran experience. And they expect you to train, double check, and correct the work of the idiots already employed there through nepotism and other shady means.


54 posted on 08/08/2014 8:19:14 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: 1010RD

I just dislike the idea of how students waste their holiday breaks and prefer to mess around. If a student aspiring at journalism spent more time working for the local newspapers and student paper, I am certain that there would be a lot of university graduates to get plenty of work and end up employed earlier than they are now.

I don’t think summers should be eliminated, but students should be moved up (or down) according to what they ave shown progress in learning and not have to waste time around idiots. To be honest, time is what you make of it. It’s not something that should be eliminated and to be frank, I believe that schools need to start hiring good teachers, then parents need to stop drugging their kids.

A lot of kids get a very late start in life because they’re drugged via Ritalin and subjected to social engineering. So how are they supposed to learn anything?


55 posted on 08/12/2014 1:14:32 PM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: CorporateStepsister

Education should be free market. Let parents decide what’s best for their kids. We have forced education and what has it gotten us?


56 posted on 08/12/2014 2:29:45 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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