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To: chuckles

The problem is corporate status.

The government uses the 14th Amendment to invoke, and then presume, corporate status on the People.

What this doors is reverse the relationship of the People and the government. Under the original Constitution, the government was derived from the People, the People had rights outside government reach, and the government was limited by nature.

But incorporation flips this relationship, because the government is the “creator” of the corporation. So regarding corporations, the government has unlimited power, and corporations have limited privileges granted by the government, and existing at the pleasure of the government.

So you see, all of the excesses of the government at every level - federal, state, county and city - come from incorporation. So the mechanisms by which the incorporation of human beings is presumed is THE root issue, the enabling concept of tyranny by definition, because it has no limits by definition.

Unfortunately however, this mechanism is hidden in plain sight through its very commonality. Everyone thinks they know what incorporation is, but few really do. The ultimate irony is that we have not lost a single right - they just aren’t being used anymore. So it’s really not a master of rebellion, because we already have the goal. We’re just not using it.


126 posted on 08/04/2014 11:35:04 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

doors = does

master = matter

(damn autocorrect)


127 posted on 08/04/2014 11:38:00 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker
So regarding corporations, the government has unlimited power, and corporations have limited privileges granted by the government, and existing at the pleasure of the government. […] So it’s really not a matter of rebellion, because we already have the goal. We’re just not using it.

And what happens when we use the right but the government takes umbrage?
Specifically, when the government sees it as a corporation indulging in privileges not granted and you see it as exercising rights?
Is there any way, at all, where you can invalidate the presumption that you are a corporation?

128 posted on 08/04/2014 11:40:16 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Talisker
"The government uses the 14th Amendment to invoke, and then presume, corporate status on the People.

That's just wacko Sovereign Citizen mumbo jumbo with no connection to reality.

139 posted on 08/05/2014 8:25:00 AM PDT by mlo
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