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To: grania; mac_truck; dforest; wetphoenix
Just making it crystal clear why the separatists almost certainly shot it down. Note that they incriminate themselves without any help from the LSM, Ukraine or Obama or the EU.

Here's a larger snapshot of the first incriminating post, translated via Google Translate. (Untranslated image is at the end)

You can see that he claims a AH-26 was shot down at 17:50 (5:50 PM) MSK aka Moscow Standard Time. which would be around 9:50 AM EST aka Eastern Standard Time.

The reports that a Malaysian commercial plane "crashed" near the Russian border was first posted on FR at 11:25 AM EST, just one hour and a half later.

The Google Cached webpage of the incriminating post also has a timestamp showing it was archived on 17 July 2014 16:10:43 GMT,

16:10:43 GMT aka 4:11 PM GMT, which is 11:11 AM EST, just 20 minutes before reports of a crashed plane started circulating.

ITAR-TASS, RIA Novoski and Life News, all Russian propaganda outlets, reported that an AN-26 was downed by the rebels an hour before the truth came out.

All quoted "eyewitnesses" and the rebels themselves as admitting to it, and posted photos and videos of it a full hour before up to an hour after a commercial plane was reported to have "crashed", via their own websites and social media posts which I have linked to.

RIA Novoski reported an AN-26 shot down by separatists at 18:13 Moscow Time July 17. (translated from Russian)

Life News reported an AN-26 shot down by separatists at 18:34 Moscow Time July 17. (translated from Russian)

ITAR-TASS reported an AN-26 shot down by separatists at 20:01 Moscow Time July 17.(first English-language Russian source reporting this).

You can check for yourselves, and then realize that reports of the missing airliner surfaced about an hour afterwards at 11:30 EST aka 19:30 Moscow Time that a plane had "crashed" in Eastern Ukraine. Of course, the Russians are probably going to delete those reports soon once they get their bearings on this catastrophe.


137 posted on 07/19/2014 9:24:27 AM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: Corporate Democrat

As I said earlier it is most likely that the rebels did it.


139 posted on 07/19/2014 9:28:44 AM PDT by wetphoenix
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