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Was George Washington A Domestic Terrorist?
Townhall ^ | 07/11/2014 | John Nantz

Posted on 07/11/2014 11:58:42 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

If I had the money it would be a price on ayers head.


21 posted on 07/11/2014 12:37:16 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: DownInFlames

What made the English monarchy legal? “Divine Right of Kings’’? If anything it was the Crown that was illegal.


22 posted on 07/11/2014 12:42:51 PM PDT by jmacusa
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To: SeekAndFind

From King George’s standpoint, certainly. And from a purely objective standpoint, what Washington and the Minutemen and all the rest of the Revolutionaries did was no different than what the Underground did in WWII or the VC did in Viet Nam.

And I for one am glad a handful of our colonists had the guts to do what they did. The whole world is their beneficiary.

If they had lost — and make no mistake, that was always a distinct possibility — history would read much differently. Not just for us blokes ‘ere in the Western Colonies, but all over Planet Earth.


23 posted on 07/11/2014 12:44:04 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: SeekAndFind

It depresses me to no end that a studied comparison of the differences between Bill Ayers and George Washington even has to be written.

What’s next, a clinical deconstruction of the differences between rat turds and nuclear submarines?


24 posted on 07/11/2014 1:19:42 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: IronJack
what Washington and the Minutemen and all the rest of the Revolutionaries did was no different than what the Underground did in WWII or the VC did in Viet Nam.

I believe you are a poor student of history. Washington and the militia engaged in open combat with British and Hessian regulars. There were guerrilla tactics used, but not by the Continental Army. Washington knew full well that he had to defeat the British openly in order to be considered legitimate.

25 posted on 07/11/2014 1:24:19 PM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: SeekAndFind

No, they were not. Terrorism is the deliberate targeting of non-combatants in an effort to destabilize society by pointing out the existing government’s inability to protect. There is nothing particularly ambiguous about it, and Washington, et al, don’t qualify.


26 posted on 07/11/2014 1:28:34 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: rjsimmon
Washington and the militia engaged in open combat with British and Hessian regulars.

Concord was "open combat?" The Brits were ambushed from the side of the road, and harassed all the way back to Lexington. And the attack at Trenton was hardly "open combat," since most of the Hessian mercs were drunk. And it was the middle of the night.

You're trying hard to apply a different standard to "our" guys than you would to someone else. But the fact is, the Revolutionaries could easily be classified as terrorists.

But that's just a label. The cause for which they fought was just. I think the world -- and even the vanquished British -- would ultimately admit that. But then you get into an "end justifies the means" argument.

Personally, I don't care what label you slap on the Revolutionaries. And I don't care what equivalencies you draw between them and today's so-called freedom fighters. We won. And I am the heir to that legacy -- both good and bad.

27 posted on 07/11/2014 3:38:33 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: SeekAndFind; huldah1776; indcons; Chani; thefactor; blam; aculeus; ELS; Doctor Raoul; ...
Thanks for the great post, SeekAndFind, and for the alerting Freepmail, hudah1776. Many very good points made by the author. Washington never did terrorist acts, nor encouraged them, e.g., bombing Loyalist civilian areas. The analogy with Ayres is ridiculous.

The RevWar/Colonial History/General Washington ping list

28 posted on 07/11/2014 4:03:05 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: IronJack
I must disagree; first, terrorism is against non-combatants. The Brits were met in open combat (and Trenton was that--the main issue was surprise and the Germans did muster quickly, but it was too little too late). As was Princeton, as was Brooklyn and Brandywine and Monmouth and Camden and Guilford Court House.

There were also some guerrilla actions taken, similar to what the French and their Indian allies did against the Brits and colonials in the Seven Years' War. They met them straight up at the Concord Bridge and on the Green at Lexington; they did harass them from the bushes on their trek back to Boston, though.

They were dug in at Bunker and Breeds Hill and did not form lines as did the Brits...does that count?

No...they were not terrorists.

29 posted on 07/11/2014 4:11:30 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Pharmboy; SeekAndFind
Apparently, Ayers has never read the Declaration of Independence. In it, Congress made clear that its actions were legal and justified under "the Laws of Nature and Nature's God."

The actions of the Continentals were only illegal from the British perspective. It's not a surprise that Ayers would seize on an opportunity to express his anti-Americanism.

30 posted on 07/11/2014 4:43:27 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: SeekAndFind

Revolutions are always legal in the first person, such as “our revolution”. It’s only in the third person, “their revolution”, when they’re illegal.


31 posted on 07/11/2014 5:11:58 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Gee, and here I thought this was going to be another screed about how evil GW was because he had slaves.

Guess I was wrong!


32 posted on 07/11/2014 5:25:54 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

I don’t think you read any of the article.


33 posted on 07/11/2014 5:26:23 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Boogieman

Actually he was never much of a guerilla.


34 posted on 07/11/2014 5:28:19 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Tanniker Smith

Someone has been watching “1776”! LOL


35 posted on 07/11/2014 5:38:29 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Washington of course is the standard bearer for what the POTUS is supposed to be.

The communist crypto-muslim we have now would be at the extreme opposite of our first President.

The Patriots that perpetrated the Boston Tea Party destroyed over a million dollars worth of tea, and caused the King much distress.

Standing around waving flags is great, but to be effective protest must produce a negative impact on the oppressor.

36 posted on 07/11/2014 5:40:45 PM PDT by Rome2000
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Every year! (Except this one — I didn’t notice if it was on ... then again, there was a Batman marathon on MeTV....)


37 posted on 07/11/2014 6:49:31 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: Tanniker Smith

It was on again, TCM. I was too busy but we recorded and watched later this week.


38 posted on 07/11/2014 7:37:46 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: IronJack

You still do not understand the difference between lawful combatants (soldiers) and terrorists. One targets the armed forces of the enemy while the other targets civilians.

Washington was not involved in Lexington, nor Concord. Do you consider Yorktown to be a terrorist act? How about Ticonderoga? Breeds Hill? Cowpens?


39 posted on 07/11/2014 8:05:33 PM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Oh no?

“The following year he led another expedition to the area to assist in the construction of a fort at present-day Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Before reaching that point, he and some of his men, accompanied by Indian allies, ambushed a French scouting party. Its leader was killed, although the exact circumstances of his death were disputed. This peacetime act of aggression is seen as one of the first military steps leading to the global Seven Years’ War.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington_in_the_French_and_Indian_War


40 posted on 07/12/2014 6:31:06 AM PDT by Boogieman
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