Posted on 06/29/2014 6:22:12 PM PDT by mandaladon
A truck driver showed what can happen when police officers find out they’re being videotaped.
Brian Miner was pulled over in Illinois last week after he honked his truck horn at a state police officer he claims was using his cellphone while speeding on a wet highway.
“I pulled you over – the horn, I don’t know what that was about,” the officer told Miner, who recorded the traffic stop.
“Because you were speeding and had your cellphone in your hand,” said Miner, explaining why he was honking.
“Police officers can actually use technology when they’re driving,” said the officer.
“Oh, so you guys are above the law?” Miner asked.
The officer replied, arguing that Miner couldn’t be sure that he was exceeding the 70 miles-per-hour speed limit.
“You passed me! How fast were you driving? Are you above the speed limit as well?” Miner asks, telling the officer that had his cruise control set at 65 miles per hour.
“You were going well over 70,” Miner exclaimed.
The officer did not back down, claiming that Miner had no good reason to honk his horn.
“There was a good reason to,” Miner said. “You were speeding, it’s wet roads. You were speeding with a cellphone in your hand.”
Unphased, the officer told Miner he was issuing him a ticked for “unlawful use of horn.”
Then Miner issued a game-changer.
“By the way, you’re being recorded,” said the trucker, as he picked the camera up from his dashboard and directed it towards the officer.
“Yeah, so are you,” said the officer, in a moment of defiance that would soon dissipate.
The officer asked Miner how many driving hours he had left for the day and then went back to his cruiser to check the trucker’s license and registration.
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OK for me, not for thee.
Word is gradually getting out about the arrogance of authority —not just among the dirtheads, either.
Gradually more and more of the people who would have been heavily in prejudice in favor of cops are learning to think twice.
Many of the law-and-order types and even a few boot-lickers now suspect cops are worse than the average person walking down Main Street.
He didn’t get shot because he didn’t have a dog.
Lucky the officer didn’t come to his house that night and shoot his dog.
Everyone should be wise by now.
This video is just a small example.
Any contact with those in govenrment use your audio/video and use remote off site servers to record it to, so it cannot be seized. It’s real cheap to do.
It’s for your own protection.
I have a police scanner but hardly ever use it. Sometimes if an emergency vehicle comes by with lights and siren, I will turn it on out of curiosity.
One day around a year ago I did turn it on and heard a cop asking for license and warrants on a driver for failing to use a turn signal.
Well the chair I normally sit in lets me see an intersection of two rural highways. It is in the middle of nowhere but still a fair amount of traffic. I have made it a point to noticed if cops use their turn signal at the intersection.
So far not a single one has done so.
He didn’t have a dog in the cab with him.
When God is under assault, gummint rushes greedily in to fill the void.
WHENEVER the size of the gummint increases, bureaucratic arrogance also increases, often quite dramatically.
You cannot have socialism without government contempt for the governed.
Cops consider speeding a perk of the job. I was busted for 15 over and the very day I paid the fine, I was passed by a car from the same agency doing exactly the same thing, two counties over, apparently a take home car.
After three weeks of trying, I will finally have a conversation with the police chief tomorrow.
That story made my day.
Bet the rent he didn't think the trucker would make waves when he did the trucker a "favor" by not giving him a ticket....Until they saw it on YOUTUBE, broadcast coast to coast
Once again, This video is just a small example. Any contact with those in govenrnment use your audio/video and use remote off site servers to record it to, so it cannot be seized. It’s real cheap to do. It’s for your own protection.
Yeah but...
Ever been behind a cop going EXACTLY the speed limit? Causes a traffic jam for miles on the highway. Nobody wants to pass and get a ticket so they become a rolling roadblock and road hazard.
I’m all for cops - and everyone who can afford a decent car with the right brakes - to be able to go faster if they want.
I wanted to report a local LEO for using his cell phone in our town in a school zone while the busses were loading up students. It against the law in Texas to use a cell phone in a school zone.
For the amount of extreme “attitude” the driver showed I am surprised this didn’t escalate, camera or not. I am no bootlicker... I have been the driver in this EXACT scenario (well, minus the CDL logbook), but filming the cop and making the point was important...
Nobody has mentioned this, but the trooper showed character in admitting his fault, completely. That struck me as being civil... I didn’t see that from the driver though.
Golden Rule applies, always.
This is a point of law that everyone should exploit.
When faced with the dilemma of recording without the consent of others, remember that traffic police are already recording their own dashcam recordings, so there is no presumption of privacy on their part. They have already consented to being recorded by virtue of their own dashcam recorders.
Now that you have your own recording to show them, that's a game-changer. In the past, they could go back to the station and have a "hard drive crash" that wipes out that officer's recording of that day only. Now, not only is there a back-up recording, it has already passed the acknowledgement test, because once a person gives their consent to being recorded, it's not clear that the consent is only limited to their own recording devices. If you have a recording device, too, then it is valid because the officer already does not have an expectation of privacy because he knows that he's being recorded by his own dashcam device.
Start recording everything on the road. Hold the police accountable to the laws, too.
-PJ
I wonder - if you got into a dicey situation with a LEO, and you asked him “is this being recorded?” without revealing that you were recording it also, would his positive reply be considered consent to be recorded...
Were it not that the cop had already been recorded, the trucker may have been ticketed, tased, and given an attitude adjustment for his trouble.
I’m not especially tech savy.
How does one use off site servers to record audio and/or video?
“Nobody has mentioned this, but the trooper showed character in admitting his fault, completely. That struck me as being civil... I didn’t see that from the driver though.
Golden Rule applies, always.”
Sorry, no pass for the cop. I’ve see it in videos again and again. A cop gives ‘tude and lies, and all that. But as soon as he knows he is being recorded, he cleans up FAST.
He only admitted his fault, when he knew he couldn’t hide his fault.
It is a crying shame that it takes a camera to make Bufford T Justice cops start behaving like Andy Taylor. And that is why cops hate cameras. Because it is affecting their ability to behave as poorly as they like, and it is only your word against theirs.
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