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To: cousteausghost

“You started this discussion.”

Indeed I did. Someone needed to. You acted with classless gaucherie on the Fuddy thread. Past time someone called you on it.

“A claim was made that I hadn’t heard before, so I asked for a link.”

Which I promptly provided.

“The link clearly doesn’t exist”

This is a lie, an outright lie.

“so you attack the questioner.”

I did not. Post my so-called ‘attack’, please. I can’t even discuss it, unless & until I find out what you are ***alleging*** is an ‘attack’.

“Fair enough.”

If I did what you claim, it wouldn’t be fair. But I didn’t.

“I get it now - make unsubstatiated claims then get annoyed.”

Try to stick with the facts. I neither made unsubstantiated claims nor did I get annoyed. Misrepresentation will get you nowhere.

“Very little point in continuing unless you can provide that link.”

The link was provided. You made idiotic claims about what Obama said—i.e.: you wholly misrepresented his quote, & then made even stupider comments in a misguided effort to ‘explain’ the quote—& I corrected you. I see that you are avoiding the specifics of what I said like the plague. Can’t blame you there. You can’t argue with my comments. Therefore all you can do is ignore or misrepresent them. Shame on you.

Now try to read this reiteration of my comments with more insight than you demonstrated the first time. For you to misconstrue what I said once was bad enough; to do it a second time would be inexcusable.

Here is what Obama said:

“My father left my family when I was 2 years old”

He did NOT say, as you misconstrued, that his father left ‘the country’ when Obama was 2. He could have said that, but he didn’t.

He did NOT, as you claimed, say his father left the family when Obama ‘was tiny’. He could have said that, but he didn’t.

He said his father left the family when Obama was two yrs old.

Now it is simply a fact that you can’t leave something if you weren’t there. If I say, ‘He left the party after two hrs,’ the statement ONLY makes sense if he was there for two hrs. If he was only there for ten minutes, the statement is false. If he wasn’t there at all, the statement is false. The statement is only true if he was at the party for two hrs & then left.

Obama couldn’t have left the family when Obama was two if he’d already left it a long time before. [Btw, there is no evidence—zero—that Obama Sr was EVER part of that family. Not one shred of evidence. Not even Obama’s most liberal & friendly biographers can find any. Stanley Ann & O Sr. never shared living quarters. That is why the newspaper birth announcements list her parents address: a place O Sr never lived. Because Stanley Ann & O Sr never shared living quarters at all.] The only way that statement is coherent & true is if Obama Sr had been with the family for two yrs & then left. That is the ONLY way.

This is basic English. I shouldn’t have to explain it to you. You should, if you are an adult, or even a reasonably intelligent child, be able to comprehend a simple sentence. Nor should you feel the need to twist & warp it out of all recognition. You should be able to take Obama’s words at face value. So let’s see if you can/will. I think you can if you try. Even most Obots do. They admit, iow, that Obama claims his mother & father lived together for two years. They admit that claim is false. You’re the first one I’ve ever met who can’t even comprehend the claim itself. Let’s see if you can’t do better. Here’s hoping.


134 posted on 06/20/2014 6:35:24 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

I’ve seen nothing yet that backs up your claim in post 93 that Obama HIMSELF has “steadfastly claimed” his parents lived together for two years. YOu asked me about it and my reply was truthful. Your link was hearsay in a birther article, with no link to the source. I politely asked for a link to Obama making the claim himself, and have received nothing but abuse. A revealing tactic. Saying your father left after two years is totally ambiguous and doesn’t rise to the level of “steadfastly claimed” in any sane world. I see no point in playing your games unless you either provide the link or retract the claim. To do neither is embarrassing for you.


135 posted on 06/20/2014 8:26:01 AM PDT by cousteausghost
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