Posted on 06/11/2014 7:03:49 AM PDT by Renfield
Deplorable an inhumane conditions existed in the struggling classes of much of post-WWI and WWII Europe, and particularly in post Potato Famine Ireland. Have you never read anything about the widespread poverty in Ireland, even Angela's Ashes? How about the struggles in Naples and the rest of Southern Italy? Why do you think so many Europeans gave up everything to come here during the last century?
Possibly you think our foster-care system (in which welfare "moms" apply for several so they can get a bigger government check each month) that commodifies the cast-off children of drug addicts and teen moms, supervised by our stellar system of social workers who routinely overlook egregious child abuse and murder, is a far superior system to what you see in those photos above.
From a Catholic Website.. how objective. Not saying the movie was 100% true of course, but the Church has just a bit of credibility problem i think..
“The fact is that hundreds of children were kept (by a church-run institution) in deplorable and inhumane conditions, and died of preventable ailments.”
Except that statement is false to fact. The Tuam home was a government institution, it regularly was inspected and regularly passed with high marks.
What alternate reality portal did you get your falsehoods from, the DemocraticUnderground?
“Not saying the movie was 100% true of course, ...”
But yet you brought it up, odd.
I’m thinking some children that went there died from all kinds of things and for some reason maybe they decided to put the dead where they did. I don’t know that it was some wicked event.
Maybe they didn’t have the resources to pay for burial and such.
Not classy though.
There is a vast difference between facts in evidence and sensationalized movie scripts. When there is a serious accusation, bringing a movie into the discussion? Really?
Suck on that media teet, bub, that's exactly why "Conservatives" and "Christians" in this country are losers.
They believe anything the media says about the traditional targets of the democrat party (blacks, Jews, & Catholics) and would rather fight one another or attack the traditional democrat targets than build a majority that could fix the country.
You can’t fake photos of chubby little children in clean clothes with untangled hair sitting calmly at little tables in spotless rooms if the children were starving in squalor a few hours before the photo shoot.
By your logic, anything that appears on the White House web site, and any negative conditions in the United States in your lifetime -- abortion, child abuse, unemployment due to globalism and illegal labor, promiscuity, widespread pornography and rape, children shooting other children, illegals burdening the system and acting out Slavery.2 -- all those things can be attributed to you because you are an American citizen? You voted for all those things, right?
Don't make logical points or bring truth and reality into it.
People who claim to know the media is one giant democrat propaganda machine are still beating this particular dead horse. Don't distract them from their favorite pass time.
Any pretext the media spews, no matter how transparent, the liars and dedicated anti-Christians ride it for all it's worth, half of them pretending to be Christian while they spread the media lies.
We all have a common enemy now, and they darn near outnumber us. We need to set aside the rancor and band together.
And if they must discuss theological differences, do it respectfully and with a heart to learn or illuminate, on the Religion Forum.
So, because various non-Catholic churches let divorced people marry, are ok with abortion, IVF, and homosexual clergy, that gives Catholics the right to snark and nitpick non-Catholic freepers on the Forum, is that how it works?
“and they darn near outnumber us”
Oh my goodness, I had 2 children 5 and 7 at my house for the last few days, they were into everything. The oldest brought me a Divine Mercy prayer card and wanted to know who it was. She hadn’t heard of Jesus at all! No concept of religion whatsoever.
I saw on another site that this story was totally bogus
Indeed it is false. The government owned and inspected that home for decades. The facility regularly received top reviews. The claim is false to fact.
Americans in general have difficulties in grasping the concept of a State Church. The two were not separate entities.
The Sisters managed a better than 80% survival rate in their Home, when we know historically that orphanages and foundling homes even in the USA during the pre-antibiotic era could have the horrifyingly opposite result: an 80% death rate. This is not because of abuse or neglect, but the simple fact of life and death when populations were ravaged by infectious childhood diseases.
The best medical advice of the time was that the remains of children who succumbed to these diseases should be buried as soon as possible to prevent the spread of the infection. Hence their interment in vertical shaft graves or crypts, which were common in public institutions throughout the region. The Sisters concentrated their resources on food, soap and clothing for the living, not on caskets, headstones or individual graves for those who died.
It is crazy that the people now being blamed, trashed and libeled for these children's tragic deaths are in fact the dedicated care-giving women who were the only ones who labored to save them.
(From the McAleese Report, Chapter 19, which describes living and work conditions:)i. Sexual abuse
32. No other women in contact with the Committee made any allegation of sexual abuse during their time in the Magdalen Laundries. However a significant number told the Committee that they had suffered sexual abuse in the family home or in other institutions, either before or after their time in the Magdalen Laundries.
ii. Physical abuse
33. A large majority of the women who shared their stories with the Committee said that they had neither experienced nor seen other girls or women suffer physical abuse in the Magdalen Laundries.34. In this regard, women who had in their earlier lives been in an industrial or reformatory school drew a clear distinction between their experiences there and in the Magdalen Laundries, stating clearly that the widespread brutality which they had witnessed and been subjected to in industrial and reformatory schools was not a feature of the Magdalen Laundries. "
And from Spiked Magazine's Brendan O'Neill (who is unconnected with the Catholic Church: an atheist, in fact):
"For the thorough, 1,000-page study found not a single incident of sexual abuse by a nun. Not one. Also, the vast majority of its interviewees said they were never physically punished in the laundries. As one woman said, "It has shocked me to read in papers that we were beat and our heads shaved and that we were badly treated by the nuns I was not touched by any nun and I never saw anyone touched."
I hate having to point out obvious sarcasm, but there are so many room-temperature IQ types around here that you have to do it.
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