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Agitated Customer Leaves Note Expressing Feelings Against Tipping Servers
Opposing Views ^ | 06/04/2014 | By Dominic Kelly

Posted on 06/05/2014 9:39:21 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd

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To: floridavoter2

Yes, expecting tips when the service is expected to be good makes sense only if they go out of their way to enhance already good service.


61 posted on 06/05/2014 10:49:47 AM PDT by soycd
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To: LRoggy

Could easily have been a European transplant . . . in many European countries tipping is not a big thing.

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Because the tip is already added to the total.

It is broken out on the reciept.


62 posted on 06/05/2014 10:51:48 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Nifster

I can’t afford it for one.

The thing that bugs me, though, is these people are supposed to be paid by the employer and they agreed to these wages, right?

They need to talk to their employers about their pay, IMO.

and mandatory tipping is not tipping. Do these companies avoid higher taxes by pretending these are tips?


63 posted on 06/05/2014 10:52:30 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

Many waitstaff are working for you for free if you do not tip.

The $2.xx/hr they are ‘paid’ is withheld to pay their assumed taxes. So their net check is $0.

If you are not tipping, shame on you.


64 posted on 06/05/2014 10:52:36 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: Responsibility2nd

A liberal justifying his cheapness. A political way to get out of paying a tip.


65 posted on 06/05/2014 10:54:30 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (Boko Haram was enabled by Buku Huma)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

They need to talk to their boss about that.


66 posted on 06/05/2014 10:54:39 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Responsibility2nd
The real question regarding whether this is true or fake is that this would have to have been a premeditated event.

Somebody printed this letter in advance at home with the intent of bringing it and leaving it at a restaurant. This is not something that someone did spontaneously at the restaurant.

So, is that premeditation a liberal or conservative trait?

-PJ

67 posted on 06/05/2014 10:55:53 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Steve_Seattle

Because the cook does not normally have to put up with the likes of the person who wrote this letter.


68 posted on 06/05/2014 10:58:50 AM PDT by The Unknown Republican
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To: GeronL

The thing that bugs me, though, is these people are supposed to be paid by the employer and they agreed to these wages, right?

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Yes, the wait staff agreed to the lower hourly pay because they can make it up in tips.

You cannot actually be that disconnected from the real world, can you?


69 posted on 06/05/2014 10:59:23 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Responsibility2nd

Not sure how it works elsewhere, but when my daughter worked at a sushi restaurant, the chefs/cooks made a (pretty nice!) salary and the servers were paid minimum wage plus tips. She had to share her tips w/the busboys.


70 posted on 06/05/2014 11:00:41 AM PDT by txmissy
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To: Responsibility2nd

Another useful idiot.


71 posted on 06/05/2014 11:03:28 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE ("If guns cause crime, there must be something wrong with mine." -Ted Nugent)
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To: pabianice

I don’t think you are a detective and I’d bet you didn’t stay in a Holiday Inn last night but you make a good point about the paper not being folded.


72 posted on 06/05/2014 11:08:39 AM PDT by miele man
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To: Steve_Seattle
Why should the cook who prepares the food earn less than the person who takes the food to the table?

They don't. Cooks have a higher wage than servers, and depending on the type of place, a far higher wage. Servers typically have a sub-minimum wage and make up the difference with tips. In most places, servers will split tips with bus boys and other serving staff.

73 posted on 06/05/2014 11:56:06 AM PDT by Ditto
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To: GeronL

Servers who earn tips generally get SCROOOOOD by the Feds on their taxes with the tip credit.


74 posted on 06/05/2014 1:00:27 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I was talking about the businesses that refuse to pay the servers what they should. Do they do this to avoid paying more taxes?


75 posted on 06/05/2014 1:31:37 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

I am not talking about mandatory anything. If I chose to eat out, I tip. I have worked as wait staff. Places that pay a flat hourly (like fast food places) don’t allow tipping. Sit down restaurants include tips in the count towards your hourly wage. Sometimes waiting tables is the only job a person can do. You are told about the wages ahead of time that doesn’t mean you don’t take a job. You are delusional if you think the sit down restaurant industry will change that wage rate.

Tips are tips (I guess you think adding on a set tip for a large group is a bad thing.) The employee pays taxes on them and some pay checks are at zero because the feds take so much from an assumed check. You pay no tip and the feds assume that employee made at least an 8percent tip and withholds taxes at that rate.

We do not live in Europe where tipping is often not done. This is the USA it is not only traditional but rather a sign of good manners that you tip. If you don’t you are just flat out a cheapskate. I have found that people who are tight with their money tend to be tight with other things as well.

You may disagree with the way restaurants are run but it is the way they are run. It is better if you don’t go to a sit down restaurant.... money wise and attitude wise


76 posted on 06/05/2014 1:51:55 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Responsibility2nd

A moron wrote that.


77 posted on 06/05/2014 1:55:12 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Conservatives are all that's left to defend the Constitution. Dems hate it, and Repubs don't care.)
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To: blackdog
A good server will also tell you what not to order if you know how to ask the questions.

A server who helps me save money on the meal gets the money saved added to the tip. I do not tell them this ahead of time.

78 posted on 06/05/2014 2:04:34 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: Ditto

In the places I go to, I see tips going into pockets and sometimes bras. I don’t think they are being split with the kitchen staff.


79 posted on 06/05/2014 2:07:12 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Nifster
I guess you think adding on a set tip for a large group is a bad thing

It is for the server because we tip GREAT for good service. Unless the tip is set ahead of time, then they get what is set.

80 posted on 06/05/2014 2:07:19 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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