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To: BereanBrain
BerianBrain: "Are you reading my posts? t’s not science vs anti-science. It’s the definition of WHAT is Science."

Sorry, FRiend, but you are an anti-science poser -- pretending you love science, you just want to change it to suit your own beliefs.
You'd like to get rid of everything that smacks of "historical science" and consign that all to the category of "modern atheistic myth-making".

Of course you are entitled to believe whatsoever you wish, but you cannot call your anti-science beliefs "science".
They're not, they're the opposite of science.

BerianBrain: "SCIENCE is repeatable, observable, and explainable. Science deals in facts. Not accusations and attacks on people’s characters."

Nobody is making personal attacks, except to the degree that you are lying about who you are and what you are up to.
The fact of this matter is that you oppose science, and hope to discredit it.

BerianBrain: "In particular, if you simply google dinosaur blood you will find lots of articles, even published in peer reviewed journals.
In particular, a recent find has viable tissue and blood from the remains of a T-Rex.
I doubt T-Rex hung around for 70 million years hiding under rocks and such."

I have read numerous articles on alleged dinosaur tissues -- collagen, i.e.:

So I'll repeat what I said before: these reports are not confirmed, but it does now seem that under rare conditions some basic organic material can survive intact for very long times indeed.

BerianBrain: "What SCIENCE is doing now is trying to explain how protein can survive 70-100 Million years."

No, science is still working to discover exactly what survived millions of years -- just collagen, or other material too?
As to how it survived, the answer is simple: some organic material which is dried and protected from the environment can remain stable indefinitely.

BerianBrain: "Also, radiometric dating assumes a constant rate of decay over millions of years, which although it is an assumption, may be correct."

Not an "assumption", it's a logical conclusion, based on masses of data and the absence of anything seriously contradicting it.

BerianBrain: "And yes, ancient DNA has been sequenced from the Ice Age - in particular Mammoth DNA."

In fact, there is evidence (not undisputed) of DNA in bacteria buried in salt, hundreds of millions of years old.

Other DNA from humans (or pre-humans) certainly dates back 40,000 years and maybe hundreds of thousands of years -- those reports seem uncertain to me.

Bottom line is: while you are absolutely entitled to believe what you wish, you do not get to define what is, or is not, "science".
That's because your definition of "science" is equivalent to, say, Democrats' definition of Conservatives: they call us "knuckle-dragging Neanderthals".
That is no more fair or accurate than your definition of "science".

Real scientists, not anti-scientists, define what "science" is or is not.

83 posted on 05/20/2014 9:00:43 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: BroJoeK

it is nice that you at least acknowledge when you are wrong about DNA, and soft tissue being found.

What formal degree do you have? I have a Bachelors and Masters and 30+ post Masters hours.

You can believe what you want, but for me, I have to see the evidence, and have to be convinced the interpretation is right. In other words, I do not accept anything on faith.

Whether chemistry, biology or computer science, I am from Missouri — SHOW ME don’t ask me to believe on faith.


84 posted on 05/20/2014 1:04:35 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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