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BAKKEN 'OCEAN' OF OIL - FED TAKEOVER? (personal opinion of poster)
Vanity | April 17, 2014 | By Hostage

Posted on 04/17/2014 8:44:54 AM PDT by Hostage

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To: Smokin' Joe
It's a classic 'wildkat' environment

More demonstration of oilfield terms without understanding of them.

For those that do not already know, wildcatting is drilling in an area that has not been drilled before. The fields are unknown beyond seismic survey. There has been no flow testing from wells.

But it sounds good to the uninformed.

81 posted on 04/17/2014 11:36:08 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Hostage

Shhh. Nobody tell any of the commies in office. Thanks.


82 posted on 04/17/2014 11:36:26 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: Hostage
After leaving Stanley my business partner headed for I-94 towards Bismarck and called me to report he was behind a very long convoy of federal vehicles with multiple 'gunship' vehicles leading and tailing the convoy.

Since you don't just head from Stanley towards Bismarck (especially on I-94), what highway was this convoy spotted on? Heading in what direction? What color were the vehicles? This is not only a geographically awkward account, but it is a mite skimpy on details.

83 posted on 04/17/2014 11:51:28 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Hostage
Not only that but some will lie through their teeth to steer an outsider in the wrong direction. So it's serious business out there with a bit of pirate spirit and honor of thieves in the mix.

Nice.

Anyone I know in the oil industry here won't "lie through their teeth", but would instead tell you they cannot disclose that information. Period. You ass, you have just called the representatives of an entire industry "liars", "pirates", and "thieves".

I really don't think Free Republic needs to be listed as a primary source of your slander, especially since you are insulting people who work in one of the most Conservative (and frequently non-union) industries out there.

84 posted on 04/17/2014 11:56:15 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Hostage
I understand the six well heads are used with directional drilling with attached cameras and sensors.

I would expect the different drill heads were taken in different directions out many miles from each other and many miles deep. When all well heads gushed (if truely reported), this would give credence to an ‘ocean of oil’.

Plus, the six wells reached 22,000 ft depth.

Understand what you're claiming here. First, six wellheads on one pad is an unusually large pad. But feasible. Six rigs working on one pad at the same time is, more than likely, something that has never happened. Fact is, here in the Barnett, I don't believe I've ever seen two rigs on the same multi-well pad at the same time.

Second, they're drilling over two miles below the producing horizons, into the basement rock -- unlikely to contain any reservoirs of oil.

Third, since all six were said to be drilling horizontally away from their surface location, the wellheads are not sitting on "an OCEAN of oil" -- instead, they are sitting on "an ISLAND". In the precise center of a perfectly DRY island, so to speak -- located in the midst of your "OCEAN of oil".

In which case, how (and why) did the geologists manage to locate the drilling pad where they did?

A very curious operation your associate discovered...

85 posted on 04/17/2014 11:57:17 AM PDT by okie01
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To: Michael.SF.

Color me even more skeptical—pad wellheads are usually 30 ft. apart. You can’t fit six drilling rigs on a pad, and the chance of all six (if you could) getting to the same depth at the same time a re slightly less than the odds of winning the Powerball Lottery. (This is BS)


86 posted on 04/17/2014 11:59:07 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Hostage
I understand the six well heads are used with directional drilling with attached cameras and sensors. I would expect the different drill heads were taken in different directions out many miles from each other and many miles deep. When all well heads gushed (if truely reported), this would give credence to an ‘ocean of oil’.

ROTFLMAO! I would expect your mommy doesn't know you are on the computer again. How many drilling rigs on that pad? Simultaneously? All hitting the same depth or formation at the same time? Miles apart without regard for geologic structure? Without regard for lateral reservoir variation?

If there was a triple facepalm, this crock would merit one. Sheesh!

87 posted on 04/17/2014 12:05:01 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Hostage
Are you calling me and my business partner liars?

Fictional, delusional, and full of falsehood. How's that? Mistaken would be just a mite too generous at this point.

88 posted on 04/17/2014 12:07:38 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe; Admin Moderator
First, I-94 is roughly 120 miles from Stanley, ND as the crow flies.

I wrote that my business partner headed for I-94 from Stanley and went on I-94 in the direction of Bismarck. What's wrong with that?

Second, armed convoys are not unusual from Minot AFB, considering there are missile silos in the Stanley area. I have seen those myself, but they have nothing to do with the oil industry.

Good nugget of information. Thank you. But I asked him if it was a military convoy because I have seen them too and he said no it was not a military convoy. He also said helicopters were circling around above and they were not military helicopters. I will quiz him more when he gets back home.

Only one well on the pad is being drilled at any given time, at most two (extremely rare), so hitting something that would cause six wellbores separated by better than 1250 ft. laterally to "Gush out of control" simultaneously would indeed be a feat, and defy well documented reservoir characteristics in the Bakken.

I never said there was one more than one well on a pad. I said it was reported to be a 6 pad well setup, the largest in the entire region. But this was not observed by my business partner but came from a respected person who is well known in the region since 1993. But I admit all messages not directly heard can be garbled and I commented to that fact in a previous post.

If there was a six well blowout, I can guarantee the following: The Feds would not be the ones to shut the wells in. It would be news all over the region, whether in the papers or just on the grapevine. Bad news travels fast in the patch.

No one ever said that federal agents physically shut the wells. It is reported they took control or jurisdiction of the wells and I asked the question are they allowed to do that? It was reported the drillers had not expected any gushing and that it was out of control for awhile but they managed to get it under control, Then it was reported that federal agents came in and took over. All this information is spotty. It is the convoy observation that is more clear.

Okay, pal, this is not just another bullshit hit piece on the oil industry, but now you are trying to crap on my home turf.

You need to change your tone and attitude. We only need civil discussion here. You contributed some useful information but I am recommending for the future you erase the uncivil comments. They have no place here.

89 posted on 04/17/2014 12:11:27 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hostage
I understand the six well heads are used with directional drilling with attached cameras and sensors.

You understand that well heads have cameras attached?

90 posted on 04/17/2014 12:13:00 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Hostage
I never said there was one more than one well on a pad. I said it was reported to be a 6 pad well setup, the largest in the entire region.

What are you claiming a 6 pad well setup to be, other than backwards language?

You also said in post 36:

I understand the six well heads are used with directional drilling with attached cameras and sensors.

91 posted on 04/17/2014 12:17:18 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Texas Tea
Your skepticism is well founded.

Bakken/Three forks wells are generally cased with intermediate casing to the target zone, generally 9500 to 10000 ft. down. By that time, the wellbores are separated by over 1000 ft. laterally, and usually about 1200 ft. The sort of six well 'gusher' described would require simultaneous failure of multiple casing strings and over a mile of formation. Now to add a little fun, on a single 1280 acre lease, the general pattern is to drill 4 parallel wellbores. Six wells on a pad, usually at least two are in the other (Bakken or Three Forks) formation. The exception, though would be to drill an adjacent 1280 acre lease from the pad, which would require even greater wellbore separation.

92 posted on 04/17/2014 12:17:28 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: okie01

It may have been misunderstood or I miswrote but the report was that it was a six-pad setup, I imagine close in together but not sure.

All of the drilling reports were not directly observed so all of it can be garbled. The person my business partner talked to about the drilling and gushing and what not is a well-known respected person in the region and has been there since 1993. I learned this because I asked who this person was. I have his name and know he runs or owns a radio broadcasting service in the region.

I think the only thing safe to say is that something big appears to have happened in the Bakken the other day (a few days ago) and a large non-military but militarized convoy was witnessed yesterday on I-94 going towards Bismarck. Could be related but maybe not.

The questions I asked are can federal agents take control of a well or lands where active drilling is ongoing? Some posters have responded with useful comments. Others seem intent on creating a ruckus.


93 posted on 04/17/2014 12:20:41 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: thackney

I miswrote. The words I received was that it was a ‘six pad well’ meaning a six pad configuration of some sort.

Ok?


94 posted on 04/17/2014 12:22:12 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: thackney

Yes, people in my business have been out to drilling service businesses and have seen drill heads with a lot of technology of sorts built into them. I imagine one could find photos of them on the internet. It was described to me like advanced surgical equipment and very impressive.


95 posted on 04/17/2014 12:25:08 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hostage
meaning a six pad configuration of some sort.

A pad is the site where the drill rig and other equipment set up.

Sometimes there is multiple wells per pad. There is no way to be multiple pads per well.

96 posted on 04/17/2014 12:28:01 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Hostage

What’s a gunship?


97 posted on 04/17/2014 12:28:45 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: Hostage
I don't need to change anything. I made a New Year's Resolution to call out crap, whenever, wherever, and I have never enjoyed fulfilling a New Year's Resolution so much.

Since Stanley is on US 2, and Bismarck is roughly 120 miles South on I-94 which runs east to west also, I am naturally curious how this person allegedly saw an armed convoy on I-94 with "gunships" when the only north to south connecting highway leads directly into Bismarck from Minot.

Getting to the part of I-94 from Dickinson to Bismarck from Stanley would require making a large and inconvenient loop west, down US 85, and over from Belfield, adding hours to the drive.

Once past Ross, there are no more missile silos to service, so color of the vehicles becomes important. I am assuming, of course, it was daylight, simply because the Air Force is really testy about anyone trying to get into their column (as would anyone doing visibly armed security on a column moving down a road anywhere, from Minot to Kandahar)--of for that matter to even share the road with it--so anyone observing the vehicles in the middle of the column would have to be seeing them from in front of or behind the column, or be headed the opposite direction.

One more little question, How does this observer know the column was government vehicles? What markings were present to lead them to that conclusion?

98 posted on 04/17/2014 12:31:30 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Hostage
Yes, people in my business have been out to drilling service businesses and have seen drill heads with a lot of technology of sorts built into them. I imagine one could find photos of them on the internet. It was described to me like advanced surgical equipment and very impressive.

You appear to be confusing well head and drill head. You switch back and forth as if they were the same thing.

This is a well head.

This is a drill head.

They are not interchangeable. Neither uses cameras.

99 posted on 04/17/2014 12:32:44 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Plus just north of North Dakota is Saskatchewan and Manitoba Canada. It would be problematic for a US armed force to go up there if some drillers hit that ocean of oil. Those provincial jurisdictions would sure as hell want the tax revenues in spades.


100 posted on 04/17/2014 12:32:49 PM PDT by xp38
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