Horrified Dog Owner Returns Home to Find Two Pit Bulls Killed Three of her Beloved Pets

Daily Mail ^ | 4/8/2014 | By ASSOCIATED PRESS and ALEXANDRA KLAUSNER

[KneelBeforeZod]

Why not? Mellow is mellow

[from occupied ga]

It was Chet66 and I was thinking of Willie Green. Chet66 was on the side that pit bulls are dangerous and people who own them are taking a bigger risk and placing their neighbors at a bigger risk than any other dog breed. Willie Green was a mass transit cheer leader who always thought light rail was a good thing regardless of how stupid and expensive. Likewise that fool to which this was directed lives in her own little fantasy world where pit bulls are "sweet dogs" despite the fact that at 6% of the us dog population they cause 78% of the fatal dog attacks.

What do we call people who ignore reality and live in an imaginary fantasy world (other than democrats I mean)? The word "delusional " springs to mind.

[from occupied ga]

You could easily find just as many people mauled and disfigured by retrievers

I call BS read this

[from occupied ga]

and yet another source

[the OlLine Rebel]

How many PBTs (and others) seemed “perfectly nice” until they ripped off someone’s arm? In fact, that is often a hallmark of the fighting dogs - no warning. Just plunge in full force. That is why it is irrelevant.

[KneelBeforeZod]

So American Bulldogs are known for attacking people?

[KneelBeforeZod]

well...do a GIS for “retriever attack”

Also...map the popularity of breeds during certain time frames and follow the trends:

“In contrast to the time period covered by the CDC study, which found pit bulls and Rottweilers to be the most commonly involved breed in such attacks during that time period, this study found no fatal pit bull attacks at all in the US during its time period, and only one Rottweiler attack.

Ancient and spitz breeds also committed a significant minority of the attacks. These were mostly sled dog breeds (nine Husky breeds and five were Malamutes), but there was also one Chow Chow and one Basenji.

However, by far the most common specific single breed involved in fatal attacks (16) was the German Shepherd Dog, which, like the two Doberman Pinschers also listed, is a product of an intensive documented breeding program involving quite unrelated canine bloodlines to create a superior working dog. There were also two identified only as collies, although the breed was not specified.”

dogbites is about as even handed in it’s reporting as indymedia.

[the OlLine Rebel]

I don’t know. They are still directly square in the family of PBT-bulldog. The only breeds that were that type that are clearly not what they were are Bulldogs, Bull Terriers and Boston Terriers. AmBulls are rare and pretty close to fighting, if not still doing so.

[the OlLine Rebel]

What “study” is this? It is insane if it thinks PBT types were never involved, although I don’t know what time - CDC time of 20 years? Crazy to not find one PBT type. No way.

Don’t know what that gobbledygook is about GS bloodlines and Dobes. In terms of popularity, GS are SOOOO popular, that any bites and attacks are not shocking. Same with Labs, now.

Dogbites.org at least does have actual data. They aren’t just printing their own opinions.

[from occupied ga]

clifton report for 31 years. Pit Bulls and rotweilers lead the fatality list with 263 and 81 respectively. If you divide by the estimated dog percentage of the pet population you can get a "danger index" for individual dogs. In this case mastiffs, chows, malanutes and huskys are more of an individual danger that pit bulls and rotweilers, although pit bulls and rotweilers are still high on the list.

Individual dogs most likely to seriously injure or kill someone are in order:

1. Chow
2. Bull mastiff (Presa Canario)
3. Husky
4. Malamute
5. Cane Corso/Italian mastiff
6. Pit bull
7. Rottweiler
8. airedale

However, simply because there are more of them, you are most likely to be injured or killed by pit bulls or rotweilers than the others on the list. This list relies on estimated dog populations derived from purebreed advertising of dogs for sale.

[the OlLine Rebel]

I never knew a Bullmastiff was a Presa Canario (it isn’t).

I have serious doubts about their popularity poll here. Even in all their forms, PBT-bulldogs are not very popular either now or historically. With all the attacks coupled with unpopularity, they are likely to be very dangerous. Going by AKC stats is not perfect (doesn’t cover unregistered dogs and doesn’t include many breeds), but also gives a bit different idea of which have worse percentages of attacks. Rottweilers are quite popular, yet have a pretty high attack rate, so should be middling on the list.

I get the idea, though.

[from occupied ga]

lack of accurate data is always a problem. If you can find a better source let me know.

[the OlLine Rebel]

Boy oh boy, I have to say - the popularity gleaned from ads is absurd. No way English Setters are more popular than German Shepherds. Not to mention even worse, the nature of the “attacks”. A little dog stupidly caused a bike accident? To call that an attack is absurd, as is the idea of a jumping dog knocking down someone. That is simply impolite poorly trained dog (although, yes, jumping could be part of attack and the dog was stopped before further actual attacking).

[the OlLine Rebel]

I wish I could! But we could start with that study and modify it to make it more accurate.

[from occupied ga]

Lack of accuracy in the raw data notwithstanding, I wouldn’t get any of the dogs on the top 8 list for a pet. The exact numbers may be off, but I suspect that they wouldn’t change their ranking more than a place or two.

[rintense]

I have no problem with pit bull owned by responsible owners.

Owners like my neighbor, though, scare the shit outta me. He’s a biker and got the dog to go with the image. At 4 months old, the dog ran onto my property. I am in process of fencing in my yard.

Asked him about the dog and hhe’s keeping him in tact to breed him. The dog has not been socialized beyond his family nor with other dogs. He never walks it. It spends most of the time on the deck barking his head off.

I have 4 dogs now, 2 Belgian Sheepdogs and 2 Border Collies.

I am VERY worried.

[the OlLine Rebel]

I would absolutely not have a PBT type dog. Airedale (jumped on someone? come on) definitely would have, and probably the spitz dogs. Spitz have a tendency to be crazy - very hyper so you have to watch that. I might have a Rott but I have to admit, being pretty high up in stats (though paltry compared to PBTs), I’d be skeptical with my child around. Basically, I’m not automatically suspicious (breedist) of any of them except PBT/bulldogs.