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To: Mannaggia l'America

No read the book. It has to do with what is considered proper advancement of the base runner. The runner may NOT start running before the ball is caught and the penalty is in fact that the runner is out.


31 posted on 04/05/2014 8:10:07 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

You really believe that to be true or are you trolling?


35 posted on 04/05/2014 8:14:02 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Nifster
The runner may NOT start running before the ball is caught and the penalty is in fact that the runner is out.

Only if an appeal is made to the base that the runner left early from.

To suggest that the defense is not required to make a play on a runner that left a base without tagging up is incorrect.

The defense can double up the base runner by throwing to the base he left early from, tagging the runner out, or making an official appeal before the next pitch.

The runner is not "automatically" out simply because he did not tag up properly.

39 posted on 04/05/2014 8:15:53 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: Nifster

Nope. Not even close to being true.


41 posted on 04/05/2014 8:16:57 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: Nifster
No read the book. It has to do with what is considered proper advancement of the base runner. The runner may NOT start running before the ball is caught and the penalty is in fact that the runner is out.

even if he does not tag up, the runner is not automatically out... he is out if he advances to the next base without tagging up IF the fielder throws the ball to the original base, and the umpire agrees he did not tag up... and he is then called OUT!

44 posted on 04/05/2014 8:23:04 PM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: Nifster

That’s the softball rule not the baseball rule. In baseball the runner can leave before the catch and just has yo beat the ball back to the bag.


45 posted on 04/05/2014 8:23:41 PM PDT by lp boonie (Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment)
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To: Nifster

Runners almost never stay on the base and usually advance tentatively toward the next base when a pitch is thrown. They regularly return to their original base when a fly ball or line drive is caught.


47 posted on 04/05/2014 8:24:56 PM PDT by buridan
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To: Nifster

You are wrong.


48 posted on 04/05/2014 8:28:11 PM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a great life!)
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To: Nifster
No read the book.

I did. Rule 7.08 Any runner is out when—...(d) He fails to retouch his base after a fair or foul ball is legally caught before he, or his base, is tagged by a fielder.

You have to either tag the runner (as happened) or tag his base, in this case first. Tagging second does nothing to the runner. All he has to do is return to first before he or first base is tagged to be safe. Runners lead off from the base to see if the ball will be caught all the time.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/downloads/y2013/official_baseball_rules.pdf.

49 posted on 04/05/2014 8:31:26 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Republican amnesty supporters don't care whether their own homes are called mansions or haciendas.)
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To: Nifster

“The runner may NOT start running before the ball is caught and the penalty is in fact that the runner is out.”

I have read the book many times, since I have umpired and coached for over 30 years. What you are saying is absolutely wrong.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/downloads/y2013/official_baseball_rules.pdf
7.08 Any runner is out when—
...
(d) He fails to retouch his base after a fair or foul ball is legally caught before he, or his base, is tagged by a fielder.

7.10 Any runner shall be called out, on appeal, when—
(a) After a fly ball is caught, he fails to retouch his original base before he or his original base is tagged

You might be picturing a play where the runner is tagging up but leaves before the ball is caught. He is not automatically out for doing this and he can think “I left too early” and try to make it back before they throw him out.


58 posted on 04/05/2014 8:42:09 PM PDT by Gil4 (And the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, ax and saw)
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To: Nifster; hole_n_one

Awe, c’mon back Mr. Umpire! We won’t beat on ya anymore tonight for making up your very own goofy Baseball rules! (We see ya are still with us tonight!)


89 posted on 04/05/2014 11:02:24 PM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a great life!)
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To: Nifster
No read the book. It has to do with what is considered proper advancement of the base runner. The runner may NOT start running before the ball is caught and the penalty is in fact that the runner is out.

Again, not true. The runner may indeed start to run before the ball is caught. If he goes back to the base where he started, he is NOT out.

109 posted on 04/06/2014 6:05:39 AM PDT by Mannaggia l'America
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To: Nifster
No read the book. It has to do with what is considered proper advancement of the base runner. The runner may NOT start running before the ball is caught and the penalty is in fact that the runner is out.

You are reading little league rules, and you are WRONG and bull headed for being so insistent. If the infielder had tagged first base, the base that Marte had occupied, he would have been out.

110 posted on 04/06/2014 7:24:09 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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