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To: GAFreedom

Orly Taitz asked to see the report for herself and they won’t give it to her. They DID give it to the media shills that have already committed ridiculous measures to cover on this - including highly editing the Puentes video to hide what happened, pixelating those videos as soon as they found out somebody was looking more closely at them, and photoshopping still photos to make a couple of 4 (IIRC) frame “videos” from the funeral.

Does it bother you that they will only let their accomplices see the actual autopsy? $5 is below the amount that is routinely waived in UIPA requests.

You talk about molecular biology and post-mortem cardiac MRI’s. If those are the ways to diagnost ventricular arrhythmia, then wouldn’t you expect the autopsy to talk about that rather than about Fuddy seeming afraid? That is the whole point of this article. Adrenaline levels. Enzymes. Yeah, that’s the kind of evidence a person would expect in an autopsy. Medical history. That’s what we need to see. That is all the media people should have been ABLE to see in the autopsy. The fact that the autopsy included all these apologetics to try to show that their finding was plausible - for the media to have anything to report like that - is problematic.

But then there are other things that are problematic too. For instance, Maui County has no county coroner. The police chief is the acting coroner. And the Primary Information Officer for the police chief - Lt William Juan - was quoted the morning after the crash saying that Fuddy’s body had been retrieved from the wreckage. This is the acting coroner - the guy who was supposed to have all the official reports and have the real scoop on what happened, as well as the medical records, etc. And he was claiming that the body had been trapped in the fuselage.

The USCG reported at 5:17 that there was one person in critical condition, another in a USCG helicopter, and 7 on shore. At 5:21 it was reported that there was one dead, one in a USCG helicopter, and 7 on shore. The notes immediately after that said there was one dead and 8 in non-critical condition. So within 4 minutes they went from one critical to one dead, and all 8 others were non-critical. Tell me who that “critical” person was. The MCFD report said at 5:21 they were trying to decide whether to take the “critical” person to Maui or to Honolulu. If this was somebody who had been dead in the water for an hour or so and just needed to be declared dead by a doctor, why discuss taking her to Honolulu or Maui to be declared dead? If she was declared dead 2 minutes later there must have been somebody there who was able to declare her dead, so why the whole deal with her being in critical condition?

Add to all that the fact that during the time that the Maui County police chief was trying to come up with a cause of death for Fuddy, Michelle Obama suddenly decided she was going to hang out in Maui with Oprah - together with some newsbabe, Valerie “our enemies will pay” Jarrett, and Mrs. Eric “I will protect MY people” Holder - who were getting so much security from the Maui Police Dept that the residents were complaining they couldn’t do anything because of all the police cars around. Michelle Obama wouldn’t let on how long she was staying, until the day that the police chief announced the cause of death he had decided on. On that day Michelle Obama’s schedule finally indicated a DC appearance scheduled for 3 days later (IIRC; I’d have to try to find my documents to solidify those dates).

WAY, WAY more to this autopsy than meets the eye.


58 posted on 04/02/2014 7:56:37 AM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: butterdezillion
Orly Taitz asked to see the report for herself and they won’t give it to her.
She should pay the $5 then, just like everyone else. Shall I order a copy and send it to her, if she's so cheapskate?
They DID give it to the media shills that have already committed ridiculous measures to cover on this - including highly editing the Puentes video to hide what happened, pixelating those videos as soon as they found out somebody was looking more closely at them, and photoshopping still photos to make a couple of 4 (IIRC) frame “videos” from the funeral.
Citation needed. Documents, audio, or video of someone confessing this preferred. Make your sources good.
Does it bother you that they will only let their accomplices see the actual autopsy? $5 is below the amount that is routinely waived in UIPA requests
No, because I don't believe fees should be waived for any reason. Everyone should pay. That's capitalism at it's finest. You want the info, you pay the 5 bucks. That's spit money. You spend more than that getting coffee.
If those are the ways to diagnost ventricular arrhythmia, then wouldn’t you expect the autopsy to talk about that rather than about Fuddy seeming afraid?
I would expect the autopsy report itself to do so, yes.
I would not expect a newspaper summary to do so, as a newspaper article is supposed to be written at a 7th grade level.
Adrenaline levels. Enzymes. Yeah, that’s the kind of evidence a person would expect in an autopsy. Medical history. That’s what we need to see.
Then order the autopsy report yourself. There's nothing stopping you.
The fact that the autopsy included all these apologetics to try to show that their finding was plausible - for the media to have anything to report like that - is problematic.
Only if you assume that's not what they found and they're completely lying. I have no reason to do so.
This is the acting coroner - the guy who was supposed to have all the official reports and have the real scoop on what happened, as well as the medical records, etc. And he was claiming that the body had been trapped in the fuselage.
You forget the "instant news" problem that exists today. You cannot trust any news you get in the first 48 hours. It's all hearsay, nothing will have been confirmed - mainly because there's no way to confirm it in that short of a time. And that's where all this conspiracy stuff comes in - trusting news soundbites that are done to earn a buck before confirmation has been done, instead of waiting for all the data to come in. Rushing to conclusions.

Rule #1: Never trust the first 48 hours of news.
Rule #2: Never trust eyewitness reports or personal testimony. It's scientifically (and legally) proven to be the most unreliable information you can ever come across.
So within 4 minutes they went from one critical to one dead, and all 8 others were non-critical. Tell me who that “critical” person was....etc, etc, etc.
What does Occam's Razor tell you? What happens when you apply the principle of parsinomy. Occam's Razor says they were in the midst of things, they were operating without a view of the whole situation. Occam's Razor says that medically a person, even one who has just died, is considered in "critical condition" if they are possibly able to be revived and that you only call dead when you're sure revivification is impossible.

So, they grab her out of the water, not knowing yet if she's dead or in a coma. They get her in the copter. They start making plans for transfer while they do a brief observation and begin treatment. They determine she cannot be revived and pronounce her dead, changing her status from critical.

It's really that simple.
Add to all that the fact that during the time that the Maui County police chief was trying to come up with a cause of death for Fuddy, Michelle Obama suddenly decided she was going to hang out in Maui with Oprah - together with some newsbabe, Valerie “our enemies will pay” Jarrett, and Mrs. Eric “I will protect MY people” Holder
As much as I hate the current administration, correlation is not causation. You need some proof to make that stick. Speculation don't cut the mustard.
WAY, WAY more to this autopsy than meets the eye.
Then indict. That will convince me. Especially when I get a chance to peruse the evidentiary record myself.
77 posted on 04/03/2014 4:31:32 AM PDT by GAFreedom (Freedom rings in GA!)
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