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To: butterdezillion

Let’s look at some practical issues with your theory. Can you explain in your analysis whether the other passengers on the plane knew in advance the plane was going to crash, and agreed to go on it anyway, even neglecting to put their life jackets on before ditching in the water. Yeah, right. Or, they were told afterwards (by who, where, when - in the water, in the hospital - when did the G men get to them all?)and were so ok with it they didn’t say a word? What about before the G men got to them - or were they waiting in the rescue vehicles? And that didn’t attract anyone’s attention? And neither did all Fuddy’s friends and relatives - even the Republicans - notice she wasn’t in her open casket coffin? Of course that’s what happened - because elderly overweight women never, ever have heart attacks when they are in the most stressful situations of their lives. After many years of stress being harrassed by birthers.


53 posted on 04/02/2014 12:47:34 AM PDT by cousteausghost
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To: cousteausghost

Because your questions could be asked by a non-shill I will respond.

First off, about the lifejackets - the original story that came out, and what is in the official reports, is that the passengers all had their life jackets on when they exited they plane. Flip Holstein said the first order of business was getting everybody out of their seatbelts, then putting on the life jackets, then waiting for the plane to start sinking - all before exiting the plane.

This video doesn’t match what we were told. Why? Kawasaki says he threw out the cushions and was the last person out - but that the waves were so crazy he couldn’t even find the cushion he had just thrown out. On the video we see Kawasaki out and holding onto a cushion while others are still exiting.

We see NOBODY with their life jacket on before they exited the plane, in flat contradiction with what was in the initial media reports and what is in the official reports.

We see Puentes showing no waiting time in the cabin. We see the water supposedly at the level of the cabin floor less than a minute after the plane hit the water. Both of those things in direct conflict with what Hollstein said, and with basic physics since the fuel tanks were mostly empty and would have acted as floats like a pontoon because of the air inside, until the air was displaced with water. There should have been some float time, as Hollstein referenced - but in Puentes’ video there isn’t. Then again, Puentes put his hand over the lens making a black screen so he could have edited out ANY length of time in the cabin...

We see Rosa Key with her arms out of the water and her uninflated life jacket not even touching the water because she’s so high out of the water. Sort of suspicious even from above the surface, and when you look more closely at the shot of both above and underwater you see a black guy in a light shirt on his back underwater closeby, with equipment and possibly some kind of float.

These almost look like 2 different events, to be truthful. The descriptions we received before the video came out are totally different than what is in the video.

Since Lang’s photos are photoshopped we have no idea what was going on in the sky or on the water that actual day. And when you look at the official reports there are more - and serious - questions that arise because of major discrepancies which I’m not going to go into yet.

There is no question that the other passengers knew something was going on. Fuddy is where everybody is looking almost the whole time. Jacob’s hand is photographed holding onto a black man underwater with black eyewear. He had to know that guy was there - yet he showed no surprise at the time and didn’t say a peep to the public about it afterwards. That should tell any thinking person all they need to know about the passengers being complicit.

Why weren’t they too scared to do it? Well... why do actors and actresses do underwater scenes where they’re trapped and barely get out, etc? Why are they not afraid of being underwater in those scenes? How many actors or actresses die in underwater shoots? What is responsible for those statistics? Answer those questions and then we can talk.

What I can tell you is that for every passenger there, there was at least one “extra” who was closeby in the Puentes video. And the role of the “extras” - based on where and how they appear - seems to be making sure that the passenger stays afloat and safe.

To the non-shills, I ask: Would you be willing to go in the ocean if you had your own personal lifeguard closeby at all times? If you were an actor or actress, how much money would you expect for doing just that? How much “discretionary” money does this regime have to work with?

And we wont’t (yet) even get into the real number of aircraft that were in that area on Dec 11, 2013...


57 posted on 04/02/2014 7:33:03 AM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: cousteausghost; LucyT
After many years of stress being harrassed by birthers.

REALLY? She got the job in 2011 and died in 2013!!!

and you have the nerve to blame her death on...

Birther /börthör/ n1. A person who exhibits the audacity to read the U.S. Constitution, and then demands that his/her government actually obeys it.  2. A derogatory term developed and used by Leftists and Neo-Cons in a lame attempt to marginalize those who harbor the silly notions that Truth matters, and that Republics perish who refuse to uphold the Rule of Law.

btw, You are very good at asking questions - hopeless at answering them.

and a poor liar...

I’ve been asked by a Freeper neighbour to sign up to add something to this thread, and this may well be my first and last post!

89 posted on 04/03/2014 8:24:30 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: cousteausghost
Or, they were told afterwards (by who, where, when - in the water, in the hospital - when did the G men get to them all?)and were so ok with it they didn’t say a word? What about before the G men got to them - or were they waiting in the rescue vehicles? And that didn’t attract anyone’s attention? And neither did all Fuddy’s friends and relatives - even the Republicans - notice she wasn’t in her open casket coffin?

Why on earth should anyone answer your juvenile questions - who put you in charge? You add nothing to any discussion except your aggression.
667 posted on 06/21/2014 3:27:36 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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