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Obamacare was never supposed to be a winning issue for them. You can tell by the schedule. Anytime a president hammers through something that won’t start going into effect until after his re-election bid and won’t finish until after the second term is over he knows it’s going to be unpopular.

The schedule was driven by political timing, sure. However, they expected by this election cycle to be hitting the GOP hard over their support for the private sector by pointing out how the insurance companies are screwing everyone. Their positive was going to be the rescue of single-payer.

It's not that Obamacare was ever going to be a positive, it was just meant to be a winning issue... they could use it against their enemies as a club and ride in on white, single-payer horses to rescue the downtrodden. Their implementation took away the club and has made the second more difficult (though not impossible).

No, this is a second mid-term they knew it was going to be good for the GOP if Obie won re-election. The best they could hope to get out of OC for this cycle was that the just enough of it would be turning on for good PR, but even that wasn’t going to be a big gain because nothing really major is going into place. The big thing was to “phase in” the uninsured tax so nobody would face any taxes until after the election.

There was never a chance for it being a winning issue, if they thought it would be it would have gone into effect during the 2012 election cycle so Obie could hang his hat on his accomplishments. And its failure really won’t help the single payer movement, because it’ll be a failure of government run healthcare.

It’s not that Obamacare was ever going to be a positive, it was just meant to be a winning issue... they could use it against their enemies as a club and ride in on white, single-payer horses to rescue the downtrodden. Their implementation took away the club and has made the second more difficult (though not impossible).

I actually saw them trying to play that out on a liberal forum I frequent. The number of posts by liberals here parroting exactly what you said was staggering. I called ‘em on it and kept reminding everyone that what we had was better than this and what we need is what we had with LESS government interference in the free market, not more. There is a reason stuff like Lazik is so cheap, considering its benefit.

And other conservatives used the botched rollout and continual changes to point out that the government could not possibly manage a single payer system.

The liberals did not like people skewering their talking points and seemed to expect a downhill ride, rather than a steep uphill slope.

And yes, I sometimes seriousl wonder if many of them are not paid democrat hacks.