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Being gay IS in your genes, say scientists in controversial new DNA study
Daily Mail ^ | February 13, 2014 | Fiona Macrae

Posted on 02/13/2014 8:45:00 PM PST by Pinkbell

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To: exDemMom

I thought you were referring to something more specific in terms of genes known to be directly associated.


141 posted on 02/14/2014 8:22:44 AM PST by ifinnegan
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Some libs would abort their child for being straight!


142 posted on 02/14/2014 9:11:11 AM PST by Nea Wood (When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination.-Sowell)
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To: Pinkbell
The confirmation of the existence of a ‘gay gene’ or genes will strengthen arguments that homosexuality is a matter of biology, rather than choice.

Then it can be eliminated (in men).

143 posted on 02/14/2014 9:16:28 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Identical twin studies have shown when one is gay, the other is only gay about 50% of the time.

10 time more likely than normal (1/20).

144 posted on 02/14/2014 9:21:37 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: varyouga

by definition it’s perverted behavior. by the very definition of the word perverted. you can say it’s abnormal as well, by definition of the word abnormal.


145 posted on 02/14/2014 10:36:11 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: ifinnegan
I thought you were referring to something more specific in terms of genes known to be directly associated.

Nope. It is not necessary to know which genes are involved to know that a disease has a strong genetic component.

146 posted on 02/14/2014 10:47:07 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Mike Darancette

yes but for it to be a “i cant help being gay, it’s genetic” there should be 100% as they have identical dna. it isn’t. so they can’t claim they have no choice but to be gay. this disproves their claim they have no choice.


147 posted on 02/14/2014 11:11:08 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

they are trying desperately to put this on genetics because then they will say it’s not their fault, they were made this way, they can’t help it, it’s not a moral issue.

even if there isa predisposition in genes somewhere, it still doesn’t make it not a moral issue. they still have choice.

do we allow genetic predisposition to let anyone else skate breaking laws? do we let alcoholics drunk drive because of genetic predisposition to be an alcohol abuser? do we let murderers off because their genes show they have predisposition to get angry about stuff more quickly and intensely than others? do we let gamblers steal or walk away from huge debts because of a genetic predisposition to get amped up and dangerously obssessed with making wagers?

we do not.

and before you say being gay is legal, from 1620 till recently, it wasn’t. it was a serious crime. it was only changed in 1973 from being a mental disease because gays bullied and strongarmed psychiarty/psychologists redoing the DSM at the time they were discussing the new revision. the decay this country has seen in its other morals across the board because of legalizing this has been devastating.


148 posted on 02/14/2014 11:21:46 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: exDemMom

MAY

POSSIBLE

MIGHT

COULD

means no conclusive proven scientific evidence. they still go on like its proven, though and spend the rest of the time assuming it’s true. and then making conclusions and action items based on their desired assumptions.


149 posted on 02/14/2014 11:23:55 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Pinkbell
Cancer and Alzheimers is in your DNA, too.

Maybe we should have parades that celebrate Alzheimers.

The end of the parade would be an undetermined time and place.

150 posted on 02/14/2014 11:52:02 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: Secret Agent Man
MAY

POSSIBLE

MIGHT

COULD

means no conclusive proven scientific evidence. they still go on like its proven, though and spend the rest of the time assuming it’s true. and then making conclusions and action items based on their desired assumptions.

It is the nature of science that one cannot do a single experiment, or even dozens of experiments, and expect to "prove" something conclusively. Typically, results are accepted as definitive only when they have been corroborated by many scientists using many different methodologies to show consistent results.

The fact that these scientists used that uncertain language means that they are bona-fide scientists who understand that their findings may be wrong, or that their data could be interpreted differently. That is how genuine scientists talk. If you ever see scientists talking about their experimental results as if they are definitive and conclusive, you can be fairly certain that they are trying to hoodwink you.

Also, why are you upset over the fact that homosexuality may actually be something people are born with? Knowing what causes it is the first step in figuring how to cure it. Like any disease, the fact that it is completely natural does not keep us from trying to cure or control it. We're always trying to cure perfectly natural diseases.

151 posted on 02/14/2014 1:03:01 PM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: exDemMom

I know that, but the way you wrote it sounded like you were referring to known specific genes.


152 posted on 02/14/2014 1:04:16 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: exDemMom

“Being born with” is what the left uses to bolster the “i can’t help it” rationale they use to excuse any kind of behavior they want to do but society and Godly folk denounce as immoral.

It’s like we have to accept and embrace it because it’s not their fault.

The bible never discusses any exemptions to any sins based on any genetic predisposition. Alcoholics predisposed to alcoholism, gamblers predisposed to obssessive gambling, people predisposed to anger and violence, none of these can cry “my genes made me do it!” and society doesn’t punish them or make their sins, legal.

But we bend over backwards for the sin perversion of homosexuals. And we cannot oppose it at all or we’re intolerant, unloving, these-people-can’t-help-it how dare you, attacks on us.

THAT’S WHY. WAKE UP.


153 posted on 02/14/2014 1:27:06 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Worth a listen:

http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/204/81-words

It’s from Chicago NPR affiliate WBEZ, but it is surprisingly public and evenhanded on the history. There are some surprising revelations here about how the DSM was changed.

It’s worth sharing as well since it’s from public radio. Libs cannot complain it’s biased.


154 posted on 02/14/2014 3:43:19 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Secret Agent Man
“Being born with” is what the left uses to bolster the “i can’t help it” rationale they use to excuse any kind of behavior they want to do but society and Godly folk denounce as immoral.

It’s like we have to accept and embrace it because it’s not their fault.

The liberal radicals are doing everything they can to get people to accept homosexuality as normal, and that won't change just because the causes are found.

There are plenty of behaviors that we do not tolerate, even though the people engaging in those behaviors were born to act that way. For example, we do not allow sociopaths to go around killing people just because their brains are naturally wired in such a way that they are driven to kill. We catch them, lock them up, and in some cases, execute them.

I think this kind of research is very promising. With the causes known, effective treatments can be developed. I think those who celebrate sexual deviancy are very cruel to these mentally ill people. Everyone suffering from a mental illness, including illnesses related to sexuality, deserves compassion and treatment for their illness.

155 posted on 02/15/2014 4:47:32 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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