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Windows XP home users should upgrade to Linux -- not Windows 8.1
Beta News ^ | 30 January 2014 | Brian Fagioli

Posted on 02/01/2014 1:57:57 PM PST by ShadowAce

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To: VanDeKoik

Do you realize how many millions of XP desktops are left “out there”? It is not the U.S. alone we are talking about here. Since XP, the linux kernel has come a LONG way and the desktop builds around the kernel have become very powerful and fully featured, so much so that companies like Microsoft are working on protocols and ways to break open source rather than embrace it.


81 posted on 02/01/2014 5:45:16 PM PST by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: CowboyJay

The games and stuff don’t have to be free.

Someone can port an older game, with permission, but then have a paying version with improved graphics and stuff. It would be interesting to see something like that.

Not just games of course but other programs too.


82 posted on 02/01/2014 5:48:38 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Organic Panic

“XP has been rock solid for nearly 10 years running all that equipment.”

See my post #79. You may be able to run that CNC equipment on Linux using Wine. Your specialized software won’t appear in Wine’s online catalog of software, but it may not have to. Often older programs written back in XP’s day can run just the same in Wine. You’ll never know until you try. If it installs and runs, then you’ve saved a bunch of money.

Another idea is to take all those XP machines off the internet completely. A virus can only get a system that is online. If you’re running them as dedicated CNC machines they don’t have to be. Have a Linux box for all internet stuff and the XP machines disconnected. And make sure no one can plug in an infected USB.


83 posted on 02/01/2014 5:50:21 PM PST by PastorBooks
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To: ShadowAce

I TOTALLY agree!!!

Your ‘average’ Win XP user would be FAR more at home on Linux rather than Windows 8x. I couldn’t imagine deploying that pile of crap in a business of any kind(Windows 7 was bad enough).

My daughter bought a new machine last year with Windows 8 on it, and I found it to be barely usable(I didn’t spend much time on it). As a matter of fact, just the sight of the UI angered me for some reason. It also caused our cat to get sick, and made our garbage disposal stop working.

What sucks is how the XBoxONE has the same look to it, and it causes me to spend more time playing the PS4 instead.


84 posted on 02/01/2014 5:57:29 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: GeronL
"We need to get together and create our own distro! A Free Republic OS!"

Oh my God! Be careful what you wish for. Could you just imagine what kind of feedback the spelling/grammar features would give?? If you create a duplicate file name, rather than prompting for an overwrite, the newer one would just disappear. Also, if you get too far out of line, your computer could become unusable, because you'll be banned from your OS. ;^p

85 posted on 02/01/2014 6:02:11 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: ShadowAce

“Windows XP home users should upgrade to Linux”

Yeah. Right. Most home PC users don’t even know what a Folder is, much less how to install an entire operating system, including drivers unique to their hardware PLUS a whole set up applications, particularly a system like Linux that STILL ultimately involves a plethora of text-based configuration information.

That’s pretty much like saying all homeowners should quit buying pre-built houses and build their own houses from scratch.


86 posted on 02/01/2014 6:09:05 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: KoRn

“If you create a duplicate file name, rather than prompting for an overwrite, the newer one would just disappear.”

No, no, no! On the FReepOS 2014 Edition files are randomly double-duplicated. You also can’t delete or edit them once you save them.

That’s a FEATURE, not a bug. :-)


87 posted on 02/01/2014 6:11:05 PM PST by PastorBooks
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To: GeronL

Games: Valve’s Steam service and indie game developers are making more and more new games that run on Linux. I was really surprised at some of them, like “Amnesia: The Dark Descent” for example.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M627-obxNzg

Gabe Newell, who used to work at Microsoft back in the early days and is a co-founder of Valve, has good instincts about gaming and thinks Linux is going to be the future dominant OS of PC games.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gzn6E2m3otg


88 posted on 02/01/2014 6:23:01 PM PST by angryoldfatman
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To: Dalberg-Acton
Here you go

Just make sure that 32 bit system is selected.

89 posted on 02/01/2014 6:26:09 PM PST by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: CowboyJay
...but since there's no way to monetize open source OS,...

Red Hat is a billion-dollar company.

90 posted on 02/01/2014 6:32:12 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Jeff Chandler

I agree with you completely.


91 posted on 02/01/2014 6:33:59 PM PST by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: PastorBooks

lol!!


92 posted on 02/01/2014 6:41:15 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: ShadowAce

I have two machines running on my desk. One runs XP and the other runs Ubuntu as a virtual machine host(Hex core and 28GB of ram). The only thing that keeps me from running all Linux all the time is my favorite programming editor PSPad. Although I could probably just run it on a XP virtual machine under Ubuntu. I like having two machines, though, hardware is always breaking.


93 posted on 02/01/2014 6:42:18 PM PST by gunsmithkat (There is no such thing as Too Many Guns)
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To: NewHampshireDuo

Have you ever checked out the Linux releases that have been tailored to ham radio users’ needs? Pretty nifty software bundling.


94 posted on 02/01/2014 7:19:15 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: PastorBooks; Proud2BeRight; raybbr; Organic Panic
shop filled with CNC machinery, inspection equipment, and other hardware not supported on the new OS.

I have some old programs on the XP that also work great but will not probably not work on newer platforms

Try running them on Linux using Wine.

If you are thinking of, or need to stay in a Windoze environment and positively don't want WinAte, keep in mind that both Win 7 Pro and Win 7 Ultimate have the 'run as XP' option not available on Win 7 Home. Whether that would work for any of the programs or hardware you have mentioned I don't know, but I do know it works here for an older scanner for which there are no Win 7 (or even Win Vista) drivers. It is at least something worth investigating.

On this end I'm either re-braining with Win 7 if the machine will handle it or going Linux. Have one desktop already on Linux (Mint 16) and one laptop ready to do a Win 7 install on.

And then there's the oddball that is fighting me but I'm pretty sure I can beat it into submission and get a Linux distro of some flavor on it. (Problem that has arisen is that it seems that to run off a Linux live DVD it wants to load the entire iso into ram so the libraries are available. This then maxs out the ram on this laptop and strange things happen. Something I'll get back to next week. Working on music for tomorrow right now.. ;-)

95 posted on 02/01/2014 7:20:27 PM PST by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: NoCmpromiz; PastorBooks; raybbr; Organic Panic

I’ll confess. I fear all this monkeying with my working computer. What I know about all this Linux, Wine, Mint, Win7 Pro/Ultimate, etc is what I just wrote in this sentence......nothing more. Life is so nice turning the computer on and happily and effectively using my functional XP, Office 97, Firefox or IE, Photoshop, a half dozen weekly hackercrap-finding, and a dozen or so old very useful and functional programs. Right now my life does not need this frustration and assured outrage.
What do I fear? I try to load some major brain content transplant and the computer boots to a blue screen with lines on nonsensical words and numbers. Then as I load the programs I love, they won’t work. In comparison to the average person, I’m probably have good technical abilities but the years of experience practicing those abilities have established my FEAR.


96 posted on 02/01/2014 7:47:28 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: angryoldfatman

even with STEAM it is a slow start so far


97 posted on 02/01/2014 7:52:17 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: KoRn

lol

In reality it would most likely simply be a redressed distro


98 posted on 02/01/2014 7:53:11 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: ShadowAce

Lol, people complain of a few things in windows 8 that are annoying and easily fixed and the solution is an OS that has never been mainstream and practically requires one to recompile the kernel on a regular basis as part of its standard operation. This is a friggin joke.


99 posted on 02/01/2014 7:55:10 PM PST by bigtoona
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To: ShadowAce

I upgraded to Windows 8.1 and liked it a lot.

I actually however, use Linux. Windows 8.1 is very nice however.

My compliments to Windows this time.


100 posted on 02/01/2014 7:56:21 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ( http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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