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To: spirited irish
Spirited: In other words, betty's 'curious fixation' implies some-sort of 'mental health' problem.

The method utilized by all people who are offended by higher truth, meaning, purpose, and moral constraints invariably consists of the charge of insanity.

Kind of like the implications of delusion implied in "second reality"?

249 posted on 02/08/2014 6:51:22 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic; betty boop
"Kind of like the implications of delusion implied in "second reality"?

Spirited: To begin at the beginning, your accusations against betty arose in reaction against her observations regarding the materialist worldview. Therefore, it is only on a shallow level that turning around my statement seems clever since you are in effect defending the nihilism of materialist assumptions. In other words, underlying your cleverness is nothing but arrogance.

All worldviews begin with a religious declaration. The Biblical or Revealed Word perspective begins with, "In the beginning God created..." Evolutionary atheism begins with divinized man declaring, "In the beginning void, matter, and energy." Rather than the living, personal God, evolutionists prefer instead, void (abyss), matter, and energy. This is all there is, and despite that none of it lives or thinks, matter nevertheless thinks, chooses, is miraculously self-perfecting and Divine: "…matter itself continually attains to higher perfection under its own power, thanks to indwelling dialectic…the dialectical materialists attribution of 'dialectic' to matter confers on it, not mental attributes only, but even divine ones." (Dialectical Materialism, Gustav A. Wetter, 1977, p. 58) In explicitly religious language, the following neo-pagan religionist offers all praise, honor, and glory to his non-life bearing anti-human anti-creator: "We may regard the material and cosmic world as the supreme being, as the cause of all causes, as the creator of heaven and earth." (Vladimir Lenin quoted in Communism versus Creation, Francis Nigel Lee, 1969, p. 28) Now who is delusional? The man whose reality is defined by, and his hopes rest upon, the living, personal God, Creator of time, matter and energy and sustainer of life and being or the man whose 'reality' is defined by, and his hopes rest upon, non-life-bearing, mindless created stuff--- the 'alternative reality" of non-self?--- void (nothingness), matter, and energy?

250 posted on 02/08/2014 7:32:52 AM PST by spirited irish
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