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If ID Theorists Are Right, How Should We Study Nature?
Evolution News and Views ^ | January 23, 2014 | Denyse O'Leary

Posted on 01/23/2014 9:19:28 AM PST by Heartlander

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To: tacticalogic

If you’re fluted...


201 posted on 02/05/2014 4:32:51 PM PST by Heartlander (We are all Rodeo Clowns now!)
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If you’re fluted...

Been awhile since I had a good fluting.

202 posted on 02/05/2014 4:41:21 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic

A little Taco Bell should take care of that...


203 posted on 02/05/2014 4:46:16 PM PST by Heartlander (We are all Rodeo Clowns now!)
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A little Taco Bell should take care of that...

I've had three colonoscopies. Taco Bell doesn't even faze me any more.

204 posted on 02/05/2014 4:53:55 PM PST by tacticalogic
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Wow - I guess you’re an old fart...


205 posted on 02/05/2014 4:55:24 PM PST by Heartlander (We are all Rodeo Clowns now!)
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Wow - I guess you’re an old fart...

I've got some decades on the clock.....

206 posted on 02/05/2014 4:56:52 PM PST by tacticalogic
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OK - Refer to post 197 for the serious answer to your question.


207 posted on 02/05/2014 5:01:34 PM PST by Heartlander (We are all Rodeo Clowns now!)
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What will be the consequences? No requirements for researchers to take and record measurements, or even do experiments and publish results. Just claim whatever you want?


208 posted on 02/05/2014 5:15:53 PM PST by tacticalogic
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False premise - Darwin, et al - did fine.


209 posted on 02/05/2014 5:22:03 PM PST by Heartlander (We are all Rodeo Clowns now!)
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False premise - Darwin, et al - did fine.

Maybe we can bring back Thalidomide, phrenology and eugenics.

210 posted on 02/05/2014 5:26:05 PM PST by tacticalogic
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And our scientists can stop wasting their time on crap like new materials and technology and get back to finguring out how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.


211 posted on 02/05/2014 5:27:49 PM PST by tacticalogic
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Again - false premise - and eugenics came from Darwin with methodological materialism.


212 posted on 02/05/2014 5:29:49 PM PST by Heartlander (We are all Rodeo Clowns now!)
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Again - false premise - and eugenics came from Darwin with methodological materialism.

So did antibiotics and vaccines, steel, computers, firearms, electricity, communication systems. The clothes you wear, the car you drive, the house you live in. Are you willing to give it all up?

213 posted on 02/05/2014 5:44:44 PM PST by tacticalogic
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I don’t see how materialism was the cause - please explain.


214 posted on 02/05/2014 5:47:16 PM PST by Heartlander (We are all Rodeo Clowns now!)
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I don’t see how materialism was the cause - please explain.

Empiricism and methodological naturalism are the basis of the scientific method. Without that there's no standards for conducting experiments, and measuring or validating the results. That's how it worked in the days of the alchemists, before the scientific method imposed rules about keeping records, taking measurements and publishing results that could be reproduced and verified by someone else.

215 posted on 02/05/2014 5:56:19 PM PST by tacticalogic
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Methodological materialism is not the basis for science. Can you explain your own consciousness using methodological materialism?


216 posted on 02/05/2014 6:01:55 PM PST by Heartlander (We are all Rodeo Clowns now!)
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Methodological materialism is not the basis for science.

It is the basis for the scientific method, which relies on conducting experiments, taking measurements and keeping records. That's the "method". The "naturalism" part is implicit in that you can't conduct reproducible experiments on what you can't detect and measure, because there wouldn't be any way to know if the results had been reproduced.

217 posted on 02/05/2014 6:11:37 PM PST by tacticalogic
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Paley was still in play when Darwin conducted his experiments - methodological materialism was not the mandate. How did Darwin do it?


218 posted on 02/05/2014 6:17:17 PM PST by Heartlander (We are all Rodeo Clowns now!)
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I’m sure you also know that all of the college universities were Christian during Darwin’s research.


219 posted on 02/05/2014 6:23:48 PM PST by Heartlander (We are all Rodeo Clowns now!)
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Let’s stay on subject. If we’re going to get rid of methodoligal naturalism we need to understand what the consequences will be. Researchers no longer have to produce data to back up their conclusions. They can claim causes and results that can’t be detected, measured, or verified by anyone else.


220 posted on 02/05/2014 6:28:20 PM PST by tacticalogic
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