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Microsoft bets on Windows XP disaster
COMPUTERWORLD ^ | December 12, 2013 | Gregg Keizer

Posted on 12/16/2013 7:23:42 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: COBOL2Java

someone on Craigslist was advertising a laptop with a 40gb harddrive and 1GB of RAM as a Win 7 machine with MS Office and other stuff.

I don’t think Win 7 and Ms Office will fit in a 40GB hdd!


61 posted on 12/16/2013 9:57:47 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL
My old Vista laptop had a harddrive failure. New HDD, clean install of Ubuntu. I love it.

Did you go Solid State Drive for your HD? I have seen a video of an ole' Dell 620 w/ a SSD and Ubuntu it was a rocket-sled.....

62 posted on 12/16/2013 9:58:16 AM PST by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks....)
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To: hoagy62

Are they trying to find a Linux program to replace XP?

lol


63 posted on 12/16/2013 9:59:24 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Pan_Yan

dang.. what were they running... UNIVAC??


64 posted on 12/16/2013 10:00:50 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL

I’m still hooked on Command and Conquere Generals Zero hour. I’ve beat every level at the most difficult level but it’s fun to go back and try completely different strategies.


65 posted on 12/16/2013 10:03:31 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
...ending support for XP will mean 'more systems will get compromised'

Considering that the 'nix crowd has historically been the ones first finding and then fixing malware, bugs, and rootkit violations in 'doze over the years -I really do not see this as much of a problem at all. Especially since MS typically is reluctant to admit any difficulties, if ever.

Speaking of which, isn't it time that Linux was offered as an industry standard by now? Debian, RedHat, ArchLinux and the longest-running (I think; I Am No A History Expert) Slax Linux have been around for longer than 'doze 3.0, 3.11, 95x, and 98SE existed as acceptable distros. Not to mention the splinter forks and tiny distros that some use.

Isn't it about time that major OEMs began offering their machines with viable desktops on one of the major 'nix distros as a much cheaper alternative to the MS bloatware?

As for the later and later releases of MS platforms: hate 'em.

Vista, 'doze v7, v8.0, v8.1; I have had the opportunity to play with new installs on more than one occasion, and other than decreasing speed, demanding more memory, and taking up more disk space, there is pretty much no demonstrable increase in performance or value that I can see.

A nicer interface? Linux does that and more, with KDE and Gnome being the two largest that come to mind.

Easy application with a menu button or taskbar? Pretty much any 'nix distro gives you that option by default, or you can tweak it yourself via scripts that are easily accessible to you instead of hidden in the OS under some arcane name.

Want more speed out of your machine without having to spend pounds of money and effort into hardware installs? Switch to a less-pretty OS and / or GUI that needs less system resources and therefore allows your machine to process instructions much faster.

66 posted on 12/16/2013 10:08:13 AM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: cuban leaf

You would need linux software. There is a lot of audio recording, production, mixing and playback software.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_audio_software

I have used “Audacity” to get clips of music, it does a lot more than that of course. JACK audio seems to be highly touted by those who use it.

My built-in audio player was called Rhythmbox.
....

That reminds me that the CD/DVD burner software my Ubuntu came, Brasero, with, I did not like. I download K3B which I prefer.


67 posted on 12/16/2013 10:12:26 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Nope.

But unlike you guys, I dont need to post articles telling you how stupid it is to use Linux or how goofy it is to use OSX.

For some reason the majority of people freely using Windows, despite how much you guys try to tell yourselves they are “forced”, keeps you all up a night.


68 posted on 12/16/2013 10:13:27 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: taildragger

Solid State Drive?

I don’t even know what that means. lol


69 posted on 12/16/2013 10:13:52 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL
...I am surprised someone hasn’t come up with a way to allow a family to use the same computer with each having their own OS.

Possible, and very do-able. It also makes daddy's support job more difficult :)

70 posted on 12/16/2013 10:14:14 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: cuban leaf

games like that are the only reason I miss windows


71 posted on 12/16/2013 10:14:35 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

You ignore the expense of all the software that will then be incompatible with Win 8.


72 posted on 12/16/2013 10:15:44 AM PST by doorgunner69
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To: Utilizer

Actually, you have a partial point. Why is no major computer manufacturing offering a partitioned hdd with a free Linux distro at least as an "emergency" option?


73 posted on 12/16/2013 10:16:57 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Utilizer

There are versions of Linux that can run on very very very old machines.


74 posted on 12/16/2013 10:17:59 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: rktman
I still have one laptop that runs XP. Never had an issue with it. The other 2 are W7. Won’t do 8 or above if I can avoid it.

Just got a machine with 'doze v7 installed on it as an exchange for work done, upgraded from XP. Hate it. Absolutely no benefits that I can see, and no default apps to make the machine workable. Slow, and apparently, although win7 was 'installed' (has the official sticker and regno to prove it) the machine says I have to register it within 30 days with MS for it to be a legal install.

Dropped it back to XP and installed all previous software that I needed for a functional machine -for those apps that need to run under the 'doze OS. Then repartitioned it and changed it to a dual-boot Linux machine. Almost twice as fast, plus I can now watch and record vids and burn discs again.

No contest.

75 posted on 12/16/2013 10:18:06 AM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: VanDeKoik
But unlike you guys, I dont need to post articles telling you how stupid it is to use Linux or how goofy it is to use OSX.

Could you please show where I said that?

I only said that this might be a good time for some home users with XP to move to Linux. A lot of home users only browse the web and send email.

Plus, a lot of XP computers do not have the hardware resources to run Windows 8, which is the only version now available. You can either throw the computer away and buy a new one, or run Linux if all you do is surf the web and send email.

76 posted on 12/16/2013 10:20:27 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: Utilizer

Just the other day I rescued a Toshiba Satellite which was freezing up from Malware. I got a lot of help from freepers and from Googling and it is running like Windows 7 is supposed to.


77 posted on 12/16/2013 10:20:54 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: chuckles
Linux and Windows just work differently. No one ever said there would not be a learning period. You just have to read and play with it.

I was a Winders dude and I learned it pretty quickly. Go ahead, try it. It only stings a little and not for very long.

78 posted on 12/16/2013 10:21:01 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority...")
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To: ClayinVA
uh, if you have not updated that machine in 6 years and it is on the Internet, it is owned by a bot network and is doing a lot of processing for other people.

Not a chance. Nothing gets into our farm. This XP workstation is the smallest piece of it, and only controls external websites. It accepts no incoming traffic.

79 posted on 12/16/2013 10:21:56 AM PST by montag813 (NO AMNESTY * ENFORCE THE LAW * http://StandWithArizona.com)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Windows 8.1 is a good operating system.

Linix Mint is a good operating system as well. Not to mention apparently the most popular 'nix OS out there for many months now. And free. I use a different version, personally, but considering the last time I looked the second-most popular 'nix distro (Debian) had been downloaded well over 1000 times, and Mint was over 3000 and climbing...

Must be doing something right.

80 posted on 12/16/2013 10:22:36 AM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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