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To: Kevmo
Brillouin’s CECR starts by introducing hydrogen into a suitable piece of nickel (or other metal with the correct internal geometry). A proprietary electronic pulse generator then creates stress points in the metal where the applied energy is focused into very small spaces. This concentrated energy allows some of the protons in the hydrogen to capture an electron, and thus become a neutron. This step converts a small amount of energy into mass in the neutron.

More pulses both create more neutrons and allow neutrons to combine with some of the hydrogen to form deuterium (a form of hydrogen with both a proton and a neutron in the nucleus). This ‘combination’ step releases energy. The process continues, again, with some neutrons combining with deuterium to form tritium (hydrogen with one proton and two neutrons). This step releases still more energy. The process continues with some neutrons combining with the tritium to form quadrium (hydrogen with one proton and three neutrons). Since quadrium is not stable, it quickly turns into helium in a process that releases more energy than it took to create all the preceding steps.

Is this description from Brillouin? Um, this is interesting:

Brillouin’s CECR starts by introducing hydrogen into a suitable piece of nickel (or other metal with the correct internal geometry)

So, any metal will do as long as it has the correct geometry, really? Why use nickel if you can use a cheaper metal ??[snicker]

Kevmo, it's posts like this that make my day. While LENR may be real, I'm seriously having problems with this description which would be fine if it was someone other than Brillouin making this statement but if it is them, then this is seriously techno-babble.

Let me know how much you've invested.

10 posted on 09/17/2013 2:49:39 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it? Do you like it, Scott? I call it, "Mr. & Mrs. Tenorman Chili.")
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To: Lx

So, any metal will do as long as it has the correct geometry, really? Why use nickel if you can use a cheaper metal ??[snicker]
***Good question. It turns out that all this looking into nickel was due to the results over the last 2 years. Prior to that, almost all the LENR work was being done in Palladium. So, to answer your question, nickel is already cheaper and if there’s a more suitable metal coming on the horizon, the research will shift to that as well. Dr. Arata was using zirconium.

Kevmo, it’s posts like this that make my day. While LENR may be real, I’m seriously having problems with this description which would be fine if it was someone other than Brillouin making this statement but if it is them, then this is seriously techno-babble.
***I think I might agree with you on this particular point. Brillouin is working on attracting investors. That’s a step below the other dude that so many freepers had trouble with over the last 2 years.

Let me know how much you’ve invested.
***Let me know where to invest. I don’t have much, so Brillouin wouldn’t be interested. Rossi turned down $200k from a freeper more than 10 years ago. I can’t hope to catch the wave, only the ripples.


13 posted on 09/17/2013 3:26:17 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Lx

The D-T chain is exactly what boosts a thermonuclear bomb. That’s a lot of neutrons and not “cold” or safe to be around.


17 posted on 09/17/2013 5:30:31 PM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.g)
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To: Lx
"So, any metal will do as long as it has the correct geometry, really? Why use nickel if you can use a cheaper metal ??"

Correct geometry in this case means capable of forming a "nuclear active environment"....one facet of which seems to be forming hydrides, and holding large quantities of hydrogen. One known candidate is titanium (melting point 1668 C), and another is tungsten (melting point 3422 C).

"I'm seriously having problems with this description which would be fine if it was someone other than Brillouin making this statement but if it is them, then this is seriously techno-babble."

What specifically makes you think this is "techno-babble"?? Godes specifically says that the "Q-pulse driven" mechanism differs from Rossi/Defkalion, in that it yields He4 and not the conversion of Ni, as Rossi once claimed.

19 posted on 09/17/2013 7:04:51 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Lx

interesting....bfl


23 posted on 09/17/2013 7:57:21 PM PDT by citizen (There is always free government cheese in the mouse trap.....https://twitter.com/kracker0)
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